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Up to 10% in Virginia Jails Illegals(Deport 'em all!)
The Washington Times ^
| August 29, 2007
| Natasha Altamirano
Posted on 08/29/2007 8:13:20 AM PDT by kellynla
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After BOTH borders are secured, all incarcerated illegals should be deported. Why should American taxpayers pay to incarcerate other countries' criminals. And by deporting them, we not only cut down on our prison and jail costs across America but we open up slots for AMERICAN criminals who are roaming about the country unabated! It's not like we are short on criminals and long on cells.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:13:21 AM PDT
by
kellynla
To: gubamyster; HiJinx
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:13:47 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: kellynla
If ICE can’t find illegals in jail, how can they be expected to find them in protest parades and outside Home Depot?
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:16:25 AM PDT
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: kellynla
After BOTH borders are secured, all incarcerated illegals should be deported. Why should American taxpayers pay to incarcerate other countries' criminals. At least you have it in the right order. Now, if we deport the criminal illegals, they'll just walk right back into the country, effectively making deportation the same as a pardon.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:17:52 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: kellynla
Without effective border enforcement, deportation is tantamount to early release. They’ll be back on our streets in no time.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:18:19 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: kellynla
By the way....anyone hear how “Not One Damn Peso Week” is going in Price William County?
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:19:23 AM PDT
by
NRA1995
(To Congress and Mr. President: This is OUR country, and don't you forget it!)
To: kellynla
It’s time for Gov Kaine to stop running a youth hostel. Oh, and where’s Pink Dog, oops I mean Blue Dog, Democrat Jim Webb in all this?
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:22:07 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
To: mtbopfuyn
11/2008 won’t come soon enough for me...
this is all so ridiculous!
we can put a man on the moon,
but the clowns in D.C. can’t figure out or should I say WON’T deport a bunch of illegals and Lord knows how many muzzie terrorists who are roaming about the country unabated!
IKE did it, so can Bush!
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:23:00 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: Mr. Jeeves
which is why I said, “After BOTH borders are secured...”
the operative words being “after” and “secured”!
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:25:49 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: kellynla
The State of Virginia cannot deport anyone. It can only turn those deemed deportable over to ICE to be deported, which makes the state, and all states, dependent on the federal government to do its job.
That said, under federal law a deported alien may not be admitted to the United States for 5 years after deportation. Entry by a previously deported alien within 5 years of deportation is a criminal offense subject to a maximum imprisonment term of 2 years. Entry by a previously deported alien with a criminal history including a drug offense is a criminal offense subject to a maximum term of 10 years. Entry by a previously deported alien with a criminal history including an aggravated felony is a criminal offense subject to a maximum term of 20 years.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:34:35 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
(They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
To: 3AngelaD
I’d Love to see Virginia, and any state for that matter, to begin the process of creating files for detainees eligible for deportation. They could begin to perform the clerical groundwork necessary for ICE, make the files available and see what happens.
Then if ICE (Feds) do not act, then the State should start pushing back on any requests from Feds for assistance.
I think any politician that would lead the charge on this would become very re-electable overnight.
The failure of the Feds to perform adequate deportation has become an embarrassment. An effort like this could lay the charge that ICE is just not doing their jobs.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:42:21 AM PDT
by
Dustoff45
(A non-posting Freeper produces fewer spelling errors)
To: 3AngelaD
“The State of Virginia cannot deport anyone. It can only turn those deemed deportable over to ICE to be deported, which makes the state, and all states, dependent on the federal government to do its job.”
you’re preaching to the choir. LOL
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:44:52 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: kellynla
10%? That is consistent with what many of us think is the real number of illegals in the U.S. — 30 million in a population of 300 million of legals.
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:47:00 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: Dustoff45
The trouble with your plan is that the state, er, the governor, is already pushing back on any requests from Feds for assistance, despite our attorney general's proposal that we cooperate. See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887820/posts
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posted on
08/29/2007 8:48:04 AM PDT
by
3AngelaD
(They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
To: 3AngelaD
Last I heard the estimate for the # of illegals in VA was a quarter of a million. Current VA population 7.6 million. Do the arithmetic and you get approx 3.3% illegals in the current population.
So it looks as though illegals are seriously overrepresented in jails, whether you go with the lowest end of the range or the highest.
So much for Geraldo’s claim that they are underrepresented. His next argument will be that theh data are confounded by male illegals being overrepresented in the age group that commits the most violent crime/DUI. Of course that’s an excellent argument for securing the border in the first place.
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posted on
08/29/2007 9:00:00 AM PDT
by
freespirited
(The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
To: Corin Stormhands
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posted on
08/29/2007 9:01:11 AM PDT
by
freespirited
(The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
To: freespirited; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
Virginia ping.
Let me know if you want on or off this list. I suspect we’ll be busier after Labor Day.
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posted on
08/29/2007 9:20:55 AM PDT
by
Corin Stormhands
(I drink coffee for your protection.)
To: Corin Stormhands
I suspect well be busier after Labor Day. I suspect that will prove to be an understatement :)
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posted on
08/29/2007 9:25:20 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
To: kellynla
I really don't feel that "deportation" is an adequate way to handle undesirable illegals, especially those who have sneaked back after already being deported.
And I am also unwilling to pay the huge costs of incarceration for illegal alien criminals. In a way, jail -- which is very expensive -- is a kind of perverse "benefit" that should be reserved for citizens. We put people in jail and spend piles of money on them in an effort to manage their unacceptable behavior. I don't want my tax dollars invested in illegals. Their punishment needs to be swift and cheap and provide a high probability that they will not trouble us again.
My thoughts are very dark.
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posted on
08/29/2007 9:32:44 AM PDT
by
SergeiRachmaninov
(Not buying Fred yet...still shopping)
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