ABC NEWS: Whoops! Hottest Years Were in 1930s ~ NASA's Error Correction Fuels ... Skeptics

ABC News ^ | Aug. 25, 2007 | BRAD KNICKERBOCKER

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

"Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh used reports of the revisions to argue that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by scientists with liberal agendas," reported The Washington Post.

"We have proof of man-made global warming," Limbaugh said on his show. "The man-made global warming is inside NASA. The man-made global warming is in the scientific community with false data."

[avacado]

7 of the 11 hottest years in the USA all occurred before 1955.

From the corrected data posted by NASA, it now shows the correct hottest years as follows, beginning with hottest:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.D.txt

1934
1998
1921
2006
1931
1999
1953
1990
1938
1939
1954

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Has the national MSM circled the wagon to defend their religion yet? I read an article in last Sunday’s SF Chronicle that became a twisted pretzel trying to do so. Really convoluted “logic”. It failed if your IQ is above 80. I’ll see if I can provide a link.

[txroadkill]

But does this mean that all the concern about global warming being a relatively recent phenomenon tied to carbon-belching power plants and hulking SUVs is a bunch of Al Gore hooey?

Ummmm...yeah. However, I'm pretty sure that Manbearpig is damaging the environment.

[ClearCase_guy]

With the "hockey stick" scam we saw that the activist scientists could manipulate data in dishonest ways so as to "show" graphically that temperatures were spiking up after a prolonged period of stability. This was debunked.

Now we have the data scam and we see activist scientists supplying raw data which is false.

At it's heart, this is Dan Rather's "Fake but authentic" all over again:

"Sure the raw data is fake, and the way we manipulate the data is fake, but -- you know -- the conclusion we're aiming at is the important thing and that's still true (as far as we're concerned)."

[xcamel]

we’re reposting this for the 11th time because?

[Doogle]

Of course Rush is on vacation this week....he has developed this uncanny ability to bring out the wackiness when he takes vacations.
Thats it Rush, no more vacations.
Maybe he’ll make a call into the EIB headquarters today.

[Always Right]

But does this mean that all the concern about global warming being a relatively recent phenomenon tied to carbon-belching power plants and hulking SUVs is a bunch of Al Gore hooey?

Well it does mean tens of thousands of MSM headlines have been hooey.

[Thermalseeker]

Has the national MSM circled the wagon to defend their religion yet?

I thought they circled the wagons long ago. It happened about the time that comrade Cullen over at the Weather (history) Channel made her comments about on-air meteorologists. Similarly, along about the same time, comrade Owl Gore said the debate is over and "consensus" had been reached. I suppose they thought everybody was too stoopid to look at the data for themselves.......

[dirtboy]

Climate change skeptics and their cheering section among conservative bloggers and radio shoutmeisters think so -- even though most scientists say, no, the tweak is not a big deal and overall trends are in the direction of toastier days around the globe.

No bias here. None at all.

Now let's apply the ABC writing style to BOTH sides and see what happens:

Climate change skeptics and their cheering section among conservative bloggers and radio shoutmeisters think so -- even though most data-fudging alarmist scientists say, no, the tweak is not a big deal and overall trends are in the direction of toastier days around the globe.

[Dilbert56]

Hansen's adjustments to the raw data need to be made public with the source code available. For example, he excludes the readings from desert areas that have been cooled by irrigation. This may prompt one to ask: "Why are you excluding mankind's effect on temperatures in your pursuit to determine mankind's effect on temperatures?"

Just asking James. Please answer before the 80-ft high wall of water drowns everyone.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

They are working on it...here is FR Thread with Hansen quoted in the Washingington Post....Hansen said that the critics were "making a mountain of a molehill.":

NASA Revisions Create a Stir in The Blogosphere

[jdm]

Someone is going to make the argument that 4 of the 11 all occurred after 1990, though. Just wait.

[avacado]

Here’s Hansen’s comments on the “correction” linked from the GISS website.

....
Please see “A Light On Upstairs?” for discussions regarding the changes made on August 7, 2007 for 2000-2006 annual mean, U.S. mean temperatures.
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/distro_LightUpstairs_70810.pdf

He’s pretty pathetic in his response.

[Doogle]

Similarly, along about the same time, comrade Owl Gore said the debate is over and "consensus" had been reached. I suppose they thought everybody was too stoopid to look at the data for themselves.......

..remember the absolute silence from Alcore when asked if HE would take the pledge he wanted others to take? *LOL* When did "carbon credits" start up?. Alcore is also "on the board" of the organization that "distributes" the often used credits for such good work as planting trees. But you have to be a full pledged liberal caught in the act of using more than one piece of toilet paper while motoring down the highway with your gas guzzling entourage

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I think the news rational is that the MSM is finally reporting it....sortof...this is ABC News carrying a Christian Science Monitor report....

Also have a link to the Washington Post report carrying a quote from Hansen.,...

Which is:

Hansen said that the critics were "making a mountain of a molehill."

[EQAndyBuzz]

“Now let’s apply the ABC writing style to BOTH sides and see what happens:

Climate change proponents with leftist agendas and their cheering section among liberal bloggers and the main Stream Media shoutmeisters think so — even though most left leaning alarmist scientists say, no, the tweak is not a big deal and overall trends are in the direction of toastier days around the globe.

How’s that?

[xcamel]

There has been a “ton of grind” on this for a week or so - the MSM will mess it all up, and confuse the facts - just you watch.

[Thermalseeker]

..remember the absolute silence from Alcore when asked if HE would take the pledge he wanted others to take?

Oh, absolutely! Oil Companies are eeevil, too, even though a lot of his family's wealth came from his father and his shady dealings with Oxcidental Petroleum.

The fact that 'ole Owl Gore won't debate anyone on the subject of anthropogenic global warming speaks VOLUMES, too.....

[maine-iac7]

comrade Owl Gore said the debate is over and "consensus" had been reached. I suppose they thought everybody was too stoopid to look at the data for themselves.......

Yeah. Bet he's sorry he ever invented the Internet ;o)