Posted on 08/27/2007 7:32:03 PM PDT by Scythian
Source? Or is this a vanity post?
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http://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm
The Mahdis ascendancy to power is said to be preceded by an army from the east who will be carrying black flags or banners of war. Sheikh Kabbani states:
Hadith indicate that black flags coming from the area of Khorasan will signify the appearance of the Mahdi is nigh. Khorasan is in todays Iran, and some scholars have said that this hadith means when the black flags appear from Central Asia, i.e. in the direction of Khorasan, then the appearance of the Mahdi is imminent. 17
Another tradition states that:
The Messenger of Allah said: The black banners will come from the East and their hearts will be as firm as iron. Whoever hears of them should join them and give allegiance, even if it means crawling across snow. 18
In Islam there are two flags. One is white and one is black. Written across both flags in Arabic are the words, There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger. The white flag is called Al-Liwaa and serves as the sign for the leader of the Muslim army and is the flag of the Islamic State. The black flag is called Ar-Raya and is used by the Muslim army. It is also called the flag of jihad, and is carried into battle. One flag is governmental and the other is a military flag. 19 When Muhammad returned to his home city of Mecca after being exiled for eight years, he returned as a conqueror. With him were ten thousand Muslim soldiers. They carried with them black flags. On the flags was one word written in Arabic: punishment. 20
I was once talking to a group of young Muslim men and asking them some questions. I asked them if the obvious superior militaries of America and Israel compared to the militaries of any Islamic nations were a source of difficulty for many Muslims. One of these men then became very angry at my question and snapped out, You Americans and Zionists better get ready, because the black flags are coming! At the time, I had no idea what he was talking about. Later I learned the meaning.
Catholics administering the Temple Mount, while far from ideal from an observant Jewish perspective, is inarguably better than Muslims administering it.
However, the Catholics administering it should come from an international panel of the Church and should not be selected from local clergy, since local clergy can be pressured by the Muslims who outnumber them so vastly.
This is from many source, radio, print, and internet, but Peres is going to see the Pope http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=53106 and according to a broadcast its about a key tenant in the peace plan, overseeing the temple mount, if it needs to be marked vantiy then so be it. But I believe this is indeed the case.
Has everyone forgotten the Israelis who were forcible removed from ostensibly "arab" territory? Why should Israel yield another square centimeter?
As for the Temple Mount, anyone should administer it other than the muslims, the UN or the French.
Anybody else. Peres should be replaced.
This is intolerable. Israel has been nickel and dimed into indefensibility.
Did you mean tenet? And if so, what tenet exactly?
Publius6961, from what I heard I am very convinced that this is indeed going to take place, and very soon, look at my recent post.
Yes, tenent, In exchange for giving back nearly all the land Israel will once again have access to the template mount with the Catholic Church overseeing the entire template mount area, it will take UN backed troops however is my guess, they didn’t say that. Anyway, I suggest you follow this close ....
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57325
In a related note the Swiss guards announced they are going to change their uniform color to invisible.
Gee, I’ll ignore the end of the world stuff and ask, why do you think Israel would abandon half of the West Bank and turn the Temple Mount over to the Pope. Has this been reported somewhere? Do you have secret info?
Why does anyone think the Muslims would accept the Pope as caretaker of a Muslim mosque?
LOL!
Thanks for the source.
Ping!
This is the first I've heard of this specific proposal, but the Vatican has previously offered the initiative of Jerusalem becoming an international city, administered by Christians, Jews, and Muslims. The Israelis have already rejected this offer, and I doubt any muslim would agree, except as part of a stepping stone to full control.
“Oversee” or “administer” the Temple Mount, including the Wailing Wall and the Mosque, the name of which I cannot pronounce?
That skirts the issue. Somebody has to have guns there to protect those who are there to worship from those who are their to blow things up. It takes more than metal detectors, C4 sniffing dogs, and all that. Somebody has to have weaponry — the Swiss Guard? They do have colorful uniforms (yellow and red, I believe) and what looks like small discs on a thin 6 ft stick.
“Administration” in such an area as this is for soldiers, not guards. I am willing to put some money that this does not come to fruition in the next 6 months. Any takers?
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