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To: 4CJ
NO action requires unanimity of the states, the powers are to the states severally and independently. The same applies to the people - the people of the several states, not the entire people. Their is no action that the people of any state can perform for another state. The motion to submit the ratification of the Constitution to the amalgamated people did not even receive a second. Historical fact refutes the absuridty of that position.
 

From the article I posted: "The national sovereignty would therefore be totally separate from the sovereignty of the states. As Madison explained, the Articles of Confederation were “derived from the dependent derivative authority of the legislatures of the states; whereas this [Constitution] is derived from the superior power of the people.”13 The Constitution did not consolidate the states entirely, but “[s]hould all the States adopt it, it will be then a government established by the thirteen States of America, not through the intervention of the Legislatures, but by the people at large.”14 This is why the Constitution was ratified by special ratification conventions rather than state governments: to make clear that the states were not parties to the Constitutional compact. Thus, contrary to the strong-union view, the sovereignty of the states did not depend on the creation of the federal authority; they were two independent systems, in which the federal power was supreme within its limited sphere—and nonexistent outside of that sphere."
 
What do you say to that?

903 posted on 09/11/2007 5:00:52 AM PDT by Delacon (When in doubt, ask a liberal and do the opposite.)
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To: Delacon
What do you say to that?

I didn't bother to see who was writing the tripe you cited, but their argument is full of holes. The 'people at large' did not ratify the Constitution. The convention laughed at submitting ratification to the people at large. They rejected submission to legislatures. They approved submission to STATE conventions. And what does the Constitution state? 'The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.'

904 posted on 09/11/2007 5:14:56 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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