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Killing animals wily-nily is cruel, and sooner or later translates into human abuse.

Vick did not kill animals willy-nilly. He killed underperforming animals, which were not marketable. This happens every day of the week.

I got my dog from a breeder who places every single one of her pups. She breeds for the show circuit, but non-conforming pups are all sold as pets, with a requirment that they be neutered by 6-months. Most puppy mills do not do this.

She breeds for the show circuit, but non-conforming pups are all sold as pets, with a requirment that they be neutered by 6-months. Most puppy mills do not do this.

Selling them as pets is a little different than dousing them in water before affixing them to car batteries.

Vick did not kill animals willy-nilly. He killed underperforming animals, which were not marketable. This happens every day of the week.

Aren't you the mental powerhouse with a heart of gold. You're FR membership should be "killed" for "under-performing" intellectually.

And no, Vick didn't kill the dogs "willy-nilly" - he drowned them, he beat them, he electrocuted them, he.........

“I got my dog from a breeder who places every single one of her pups. She breeds for the show circuit, but non-conforming pups are all sold as pets, with a requirment that they be neutered by 6-months. Most puppy mills do not do this.”

If your breeder is “placing every single pup” then that breeder is being irresponsible. There are several reasons but I will give you one. The Miniature Schnauzer breed has a genetic predisposition to develop cataracts. This genetic flaw can be observed and screened out shortly after birth. Most responsible breeders do this in an effort to remove this problem from the breed and to prevent grief for an owner when a dog becomes older. I’ll give you another; the German Shepard breed has a genetic predisposition for hip problems. In fact, many police departments has stopped using them because they tend to become incapacitated too early in their lives/careers. Responsible breeders are trying to clean up this problem for as well. Oh, forgot to mention - the only way to clean a breed with these sort of problems is to put down any pups who exhibit these problems, then breed only dogs that are considered safe...

Vick did not kill animals willy-nilly. He killed underperforming animals
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I guess that makes it OK, then. /s

I’m confused about the comments regarding your breeder. You can’t be comparing your breeder’s treatment of non conformers to Vick’s treatment of underperformers, can you?

I imagine "puppy mills" have different methods.

Vick should never play pro football again and be required to return at least his latest bonus. He might not serve jail time. It all depends on how much he "cooperates" and whether the judge accepts or rejects the vague non-admission of the plea deal.