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To: George W. Bush; OrthodoxPresbyterian
support for troops...support for war

The most important issues boil down to whether a combat campaign (war, seizure, reprisal, etc.) is Just & Necessary.

If they are Just & Necessary, then true support for a soldier MUST include support for his mission. Otherwise, we tell him that his sweat, toil, sacrifice, and blood are in vain and cheap.

To abandon an enterprise once begun is to send the message to family and comrade-in-arms that the sacrifices have been abandoned....never worth it in the first place.

This is tragic because it takes away one major solace of the injured and bereaved -- that their loved one sacrificed for an honor-laden cause. Take that away, and you've cut their heart out and caused unending pain.

For this reason, we must never hastily agree to a combat offensive, nor must we hastily leave one.

Somalia is a great example. Exactly what solace do those families of dead soldiers cling to?

No one can deny that the Reprisal Against Terror (commonly called War on Terror) is just and necessary. The Iraqi campaign of that reprisal has its detractors for various reasons.

However, unless we can prove with absolute certainty that there was no terror threat from Saddam's Iraq, we should be SENSITIVE to the blood of those who've sacrificed, and to the families of the bereaved before we make broad pronouncements.

707 posted on 08/27/2007 8:12:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
If they are Just & Necessary, then true support for a soldier MUST include support for his mission. Otherwise, we tell him that his sweat, toil, sacrifice, and blood are in vain and cheap.

I think we are obligated to support the troops no matter what. We were right to support them in Xlinton's anti-Christian pro-narcoterrorist rampage in the Balkans. We are right to support them in their mission to Afghanistan/Waziristan. We are right to support them now in Iraq (even if some of us don't agree with the mission). And we will be right to support them if a President Hitlery orders them to invade Israel to impose a peace process on them for the sake of the Palis despite our undoubted opposition to such an evil plan.

I know, I know, consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds but it is one of my weaknesses.

Somalia is a great example. Exactly what solace do those families of dead soldiers cling to?

The deaths of soldiers is regrettable and inevitable. Merely by fielding an army of hundreds of thousands in various aircraft and vehicles, some will die if we are only training them. Or if deployed on a totally innocent and warmly welcome base on foreign soil, like in Eastern Europe.

One might say that those deaths from mere accidents (generally involving vehicles) had no solace either. I would object. Military service to the country is always honorable if you don't disgrace your uniform (as many of us would say of John Kerry). Still, even Kerry wore that uniform and faced a certain amount of danger, whatever his motives and later disgraceful and opportunistic conduct.

Our soldiers and their service are always to be honored, whether a Republican or a Dim is in the White House, whether we agree with their military deployments or not.

No one can deny that the Reprisal Against Terror (commonly called War on Terror) is just and necessary. The Iraqi campaign of that reprisal has its detractors for various reasons.

Because al-Qaeda was not in Iraq? Because there was no WMD program in Iraq? Because the only terrorism being sponsored was in subsidizing the families of Pali suicide bombers (much as they are subsidized by high-ranking Saudis, our great allies in that same War On Terror)?

No one is crying over Saddam. But the war in Afghanistan and bringing Osama to justice is still relevant to 9/11 and the entire War On Terror. Iraq is a peripheral issue to the War On Terror. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, Rice, none of them cited Saddam as a terrorist or as being behind the 9/11 attacks. To hold a Just War theory, you have to focus on the justifications for war given at the time to determine motives and the effect of actions taken.
712 posted on 08/27/2007 8:30:46 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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