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TO: Karsten5 (FR newest member)

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Welcome to FR. I am the individual who started this thread. First of all I posted it in the Blogger section and never expected that the MODs would decide to put it on the sidebar. I am certainly not complaining as I think the core issue should be discussed.

Second, all of the "bashing" going on here is from YOUR fellow Ron Paul supporters. I see that once you showed up on the thread they start telling you what a great job you are doing for Ron Paul and encouraging your efforts. However, earlier in the thread if you take the time to scroll back, you will see that they were calling YOU everything BUT a child of God, --- see post #14 "FRINGE LUNATIC -- see post #25 "Anti-war Moonbat -- see post #128 "one wingnut in Pasadena" --- and on and on.. ) THESE ARE THE COMMENTS ABOUT YOU -- FROM YOUR FELLOW RON PAUL SUPPORTERS HERE ON FR --- who are now praising your efforts -- which is it folks???

No one doubts that Ron Paul is very strong CONSTITUTIONALIST -- and as such has been on the "right" side of most issues that conservatives hold near and dear -- this makes him a very effective member of congress IMHO -- but at the same time his view of the GWOT makes him UNFIT to be Commander in Chief -- IMHO of course --

The whole purpose of this thread was to ask the Ron Paul supporters here on FR if they agree or disagree with your efforts -- what we found was that they DISAGREE with your views -- but support the efforts of the Anti-war crowd if it helps recruit more folks into Ron Paul's camp.

Lastly, I stated earlier in this thread that IF a group of folks claiming to be Duncan Hunter supporters were trying to recruit folks at a MoveOn event, I would suggest that they were in fact NOT genuine in their support -- and would state so publicly

SPARTAN - SIX - DELTA - OUT !

P.S. If anyone wants on or off my ping list please FReepmail me.. KDD, as per your request in post #268 -- this is the last ping you will recieve from me unless you request to be re-added

Karsten,

RESPONSE TO PRIVATE E-MAIL Received from Karsten5 —

Thanks for contacting me. I think the context of the thread is fair and appropriate.. I never said anything bad about you or Ron Paul.. in fact most of the “bashing” came from your fellow Ron Paul supporters.. You have addressed some of them on FR, and since you have not posted anything in violation of FR posting guidelines you are a FReeper in good standing. I look forward to more discussions on FR.

As for your request to remove the thread, you are free to ask the moderators to remove it, but since it was the moderators who placed it on the side-bar, I doubt they will remove it, and if they did I would strongly object. The debate is FAIR, let’s just keep it civil. – You said you don’t like the “implication” -— there is no implication in my original post – just a statement of fact that you were encouraging Ron Paul supporters to attend the move-on event – and that is a fact which you do not dispute ——

"The whole purpose of this thread was to ask the Ron Paul supporters here on FR if they agree or disagree with your efforts -- what we found was that they DISAGREE with your views -- but support the efforts of the Anti-war crowd if it helps recruit more folks into Ron Paul's camp."

Bump!

I understood your intended purpose very easily.
It wasn't rocket science.

There is more than enough evidence in the posts on this thread to explain why I stay away from RP threads altogether.

Second, all of the "bashing" going on here is from YOUR fellow Ron Paul supporters. I see that once you showed up on the thread they start telling you what a great job you are doing for Ron Paul and encouraging your efforts. However, earlier in the thread if you take the time to scroll back, you will see that they were calling YOU everything BUT a child of God, --- see post #14 "FRINGE LUNATIC -- see post #25 "Anti-war Moonbat -- see post #128 "one wingnut in Pasadena" --- and on and on.. ) THESE ARE THE COMMENTS ABOUT YOU -- FROM YOUR FELLOW RON PAUL SUPPORTERS HERE ON FR --- who are now praising your efforts -- which is it folks???

I've changed my mind. Karsten5 seems like a young man that is a conservative as it gets in California. He could move to my all-Red state and fit in just fine given what he's posted here. More conservative than some of the people here that are supposedly so conservative, more damned nanny-staters and big-government Republican types.

The whole purpose of this thread was to ask the Ron Paul supporters here on FR if they agree or disagree with your efforts -- what we found was that they DISAGREE with your views -- but support the efforts of the Anti-war crowd if it helps recruit more folks into Ron Paul's camp.

Actually, I think it's a good idea now that I understand Karsten's motives better. It's fine to advocate ending the Iraq war (I know it's heinous to all those unlimited-war/eternal-war types). This is a rare opportunity to penetrate a MoveOn and have a chance to move some of their adherents to a true pro-liberty small-government position. So, good for Karsten for having the guts to "invade" them.

Lastly, I stated earlier in this thread that IF a group of folks claiming to be Duncan Hunter supporters were trying to recruit folks at a MoveOn event,

You know, this is rather unkind when we have said so many nice things about Duncan (and Tanc and TThompson) on so many of our own threads. When Ron Paul was attacked (falsely) for earmarking, we never brought up Duncan's history on it in any detail. We didn't post that story about the millions Duncan got earmarked for his own district out of the defense budget that passed, did we? I'm not sure why a Duncan supporter is being so hostile to Ron Paul.

he he he

Get Some!

David - I’m not sure why you pinged me in post 404 as a Paul supporter. His view of the GWOT is a deal-breaker for me. So is his whiny voice.

BTTT

You make good points regarding Paul's reluctance to join in the GWOT. Heaven only knows how he might screw up any positive gains the various Intel Organizations have reached since GWB had the shops partially cleaned.