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To: billbears; jveritas
Ah, well, Jveritas, help this know it all understand. You, jveritas, are an Arab, correct? You're a Christian one, I believe. And our most intelligent expert on the world, Miss Billbears, knows what Arabs want. He knows they're right to be "upset," as the gentle lady says. In my experience in Arab lands, admittedly not as long as the effiminine Missus Billbears, I believe that it is correct that the Arabs are quite capable of aspiring to more than anti-American claptrap that little sugar shorts Miss Billbears projects on to them. Self-goverment is not a uniquely Anglo phenomena, is it? And I don't think this projection should be used to undermine those Arabs who risked their lives to have self-goverment in Iraq or Lebanon making way for Iran and Syria. I may not have the feminine understanding that Miss Billbears has. I also sense an unhealthy dose of Liberal historical understanding of the Middle East.
1,207 posted on 08/28/2007 7:43:04 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats have plenty of patience for anti-American dictators but none for Iraqi democrats.)
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To: elhombrelibre
And our most intelligent expert on the world, Miss Billbears, knows what Arabs want.

Awww, name calling. I didn't know you cared. I also note you didn't address a damn thing I mentioned. Why? Because when it comes to the historical perspective of why the world is the way it is and why it will continue on the path it has, you simply don't grasp it. Perhaps you can't. Perhaps because it takes more than talking points from Fox News and Sean Hannity to realize the situation in the Middle East has been on for oh about 4000 years?

I don't know what Arabs want and frankly I don't care. If they want self government they can grasp it. Just as we did in the West after 500 years or so (oops I gave you the answer to the question in the next paragraph...). Course the last time a nation tried self determination in the Middle East without proper 'approval' from the West, it was smacked down. Matter of fact that happens almost every time doesn't it? You'll have the form of 'self government' we want you to have by God and you'll like it.

Self-goverment is not a uniquely Anglo phenomena, is it?

No it is not. Why don't you enlighten us to how long it took self government to take hold in the West....

I also sense an unhealthy dose of Liberal historical understanding of the Middle East

Translated, I have no earthly idea of what billbears is talking about, since I haven't actually studied history, so by definition it must be liberal....what you sense is actually the ability to think for oneself and not parrot talking points from the RNC. You're right that probably is foreign to you....

1,213 posted on 08/28/2007 8:28:57 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: elhombrelibre; billbears
I think we should all submit to the extreme knowledge and experience of BillBears. Who I am to argue with him about the islamic terrorist enemy, after all I was born and raised in Lebanon for 22 years, I am a Christian who lived 15 years of the Lebanese war and knew very well who the islamic terrorist enemy is, but all this does not matter. Let us all kneel in front of BillBears and her great knowledge.
1,222 posted on 08/28/2007 9:13:00 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: elhombrelibre

* Crickets chirping *


1,231 posted on 08/28/2007 10:58:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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