Again, define surrender.
So you drum up some things as if they’re mutually exclusive. For example, you imply that if we stay in Iraq the border cannot be secured. How do you know it will take two generations? Were you there? Last fall, people said Ramadi was lost. Now, we see it isn’t.
Big difference between actual combat & police action refeering sectarian violence between Muslim factions while trying to make democracy work.
What do you know about waging war? Were you in the service? If so, what branch?
I enlisted in the Navy. Great Lakes in August 1990. Iraq invaded Kuwait that same month. The unit I was in was scheduled to go to the Gulf. I received an honorable discharge due to an eye condition after 3 weeks.