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Harry Potter Fanatics Lash Out at Pope, Michael O'Brien, LifeSiteNews Over Criticism of Novels
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | August 23, 2007 | John-Henry Westen Editor and Steve Jalsevac

Posted on 08/25/2007 10:00:49 PM PDT by monomaniac

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To: John Leland 1789

> Young children can understand the spiritual content in Harry Potter books and films - - it is an unclean spirit; devilish.

I am conscious that I am butting into your discussion and I apologize in advance for doing so. Harry Potter is about as sinister to Christians as “Beowulf” and “The Iliad/Odyssey”, in my day-and-age. Full of heathen stuff, but plenty of harmless fun all the same.

My Mom and Dad raised me to be a Christian, which I still am, despite me reading Beowulf and Homer. If history, it was interesting-but-irrelevant history. If fiction, it was a rollicking-good-read guaranteed to build Character. But nothing more.

Kids aren’t stupid, unless we raise them to be stupid. They can easily discern fiction. Mine do.

*DieHard*


21 posted on 08/26/2007 2:13:49 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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“Kids aren’t stupid, unless we raise them to be stupid.”

Precisely the way kids are being raised today in the public education mind set. Stupid; dumbed-down.

I see them get off the big yellow pervert-o-mobile at our corner, 3:00 daily (when we are in the States), one arm trying to hold britches up, one arm around girfriend’s neck, and no books to carry.

They are bombarded with satanic messages more frequently and consistently today than when “Beowulf” and the “The Iliad/Odyssey” were standard high school reading (Homer’s works required in literature courses in my California high school).

22 posted on 08/26/2007 2:33:55 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

> They are bombarded with satanic messages more frequently and consistently today than when “Beowulf” and the “The Iliad/Odyssey” were standard high school reading (Homer’s works required in literature courses in my California high school).

Crikey! That says heaps about a California education, and all of it SAD. We did that one way before high school...

More satanic than in my day? Doubt it: I grew up as a child of the 60’s and 70’s. Luckily with good parents. Nobody did drugs in our family but plenty of neighbors did.

My Grandfather (RIP) read Beowulf to me when I was six. I read Homer, alone, (upon his recommendation) when I was eight.

Heroditus followed, as did Thomas Mallory, as did William Shakespeare, as did Cicero and the rest of the whole toga-wearing lot. And I was a kid, a product of the 1960’s/1970’s. It was Entertainment, along with Gilligan’s Island and Baa Baa Black Sheep and Wonder Woman and The Six Million Dollar Man and, ultimately, The A-Team.

We did not have PlayStation or MTV or Xbox back then. If it wasn’t in a book then perhaps TV would do OK, and it was a poor substitute. And I did not miss it.

Maybe I’m just getting old.


23 posted on 08/26/2007 2:55:58 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: monomaniac; DieHard the Hunter; John Leland 1789; kingu; Psalm_2; invisib1e hand; Drammach
A list of the most important children's books, published at least 90 years ago

This is a pretty comprehensive list of the great classics of children’s literature and I read many of these as a child.

Some more contemporary classics include:

Winnie-the-Pooh (1926) and The House at Pooh Corner (1928) by A. A. Milne
Little House In The Big Woods (Little House on the Prairie) (1932) and sequels
The Hobbit (1937) by J. R. R. Tolkien
Pippi Longstocking (1944) by Astrid Lindgren
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950) & The Chronicles Of Narnia (1949-1954) by C. S. Lewis
The Cat in the Hat (1957) by Dr. Seuss
Where the Wild Things Are (1964) by Maurice Sendak
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (1964) by Roald Dahl
Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret (1970) by Judy Blume (while not appropriate for young children, as an adolescent teenage girl, I very much identified with Margaret and reading it allowed me to open up a frank conversation with my mother about puberty and religion in a very positive way and Christian focused way.)

Note how many of these are in the genre of Fantasy and feature witches, faries or other "magical" beings. There are also some great works of Science Fiction and several of these classics feature animals that talk.

Another theme that repeats in many classic works of children’s literature, even those that are not fantasies, is that of the orphaned child or a child or children or young adult, in great peril, facing great hardships or on epic quests, fighting and prevailing against evil protagonists who are often adults.

Children like reading such stories. Why? I think because children often feel helpless and powerless and these stories place them in a world where the grownup adult is not the focus and is not always in charge. It gives them opportunity to think about making choices and the consequences of those choices and in dealing with adversity – the things they will have to deal with as they enter puberty and adulthood. And isn’t that what the Harry Potter books are all about?

I would not discourage any child from reading any of these books. I would however, encourage their parents to read them also, and talk about the themes with their child. It’s a great opportunity to foster a love of reading and literature and more importantly a way for parents to instill and reinforce their standards and morals on their children.

I really don’t think that Harry Potter influences children to become witches any more than Wonderful Wizard of Oz or The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe does.
24 posted on 08/26/2007 7:09:17 AM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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Impressive list of books.

Our children each read at least a couple of books each week, and they are not short stories, believe me. But they have chosen, for the most part, biographies, histories, and a few historical novels. If there is time they read natural science and naturalist books and journals. My eldest son, now 30, is quite the expert in botany, by his own reading and wilderness note taking. He was reading Thomas Sowell’s books at age 12 (finds himself a Conservative of an older order). His other interest in reading has been weapons and balistics. Not interested in a list that runs from Pooh to Potter.

My 15 year old son is reading late 19th century theologies and political movements. He enjoys the British theatre in both areas. Not interested in fictional spritist stuff. He told me that the “Scriptures (the Bible) have enough about the spiritual realm to make a lifetime study — why waste time on man’s junk on the issue.”

Our kids read through the Bible several times each year. Only 20 chapters per day can get one through the Bible six times each year.

We are grateful to God for the result.


25 posted on 08/26/2007 7:34:11 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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