Hog Futures Surge on News Of China Deal

the wall street journal ^ | 08.25.07 | walters, theopolis; thacker, curt

[1rudeboy]

In other words, whining that “we’re actually selling something for a change?” automatically becomes “we’re buying too much.” It never fails.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

We export what?...

Planes.

Raw materials.

Food.

That’s just tremendous. Gonna be a great new century.

We’ll all be “information workers”.

Oh wait. Those jobs are being outsourced.

We are so screwed. Seriously.

We have gotten into the mode of surrendering to our competition as a matter of course. Almost without considering the option, of contesting and fighting for markets, for economic access.

We don’t even try.

Iraq seems to be the single, and only exception. We fight there. We fight in Afghanistan. Other places. But do we fight for our economic rights?

No. We just give away the farm.

Need support from some country? Give them a bunch of money. Need support from some other country? Give their national monopolies free access to our markets.

Do we get reciprocal trade access? In any markets? Anywhere?

Pretty much no.

Yet we proclaim how “free trade” is so good for everyone. “It’s not a zero-sum game”. Blah blah blah.

If that’s the case, how come all our competitors are cleaning our clocks economically?

In case you missed it. We’re not rich.

We’re broke.

In fact, we’re in debt up to our eyeballs.

Who do we owe all that money to?

“Poor” China.

Which is now in many ways, the richest nation on earth.

Yet, we still cannot sell our products there.

Those which we still manufacture.

BECAUSE THEIR MARKETS ARE NOT OPEN.

“But it’s not a zero-sum game”. Blah blah blah.

OK now go ahead and explain how I’m wrong.

I’d like to be. Sadly, I don’t think I am.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Yah, we’re selling something and now pork prices are increasing for us all. Be careful what you ask for, you might just get it.

[1rudeboy]

Like I said, you're not thinking. You are feeling. Why don't you try and find out what goods the U.S. exports? Seriously, if you don't know (and it's clear you do not), what makes you think you can appear on a thread to tell everyone they're doomed with regard to economic matters?

[Cringing Negativism Network]

So tell us.

You’re the one insisting there’s not problem.

Convince us. What do we export?

And why do you not think our trade balance matters?

Does your own cash flow, not matter? Can you spend more than you make?

Let’s hear your facts.

So far you’ve only challenged what I’ve said. You have offered no facts to refute even one single word...

[1rudeboy]

So far you’ve only challenged what I’ve said. You have offered no facts to refute even one single word....

Yeah, as if "Could be, we’re actually selling something for a change?" is unassailable. LOL

In any case Heritage trumps Wal-Mart:

Why Free Trade Works for America [Free Republic]

Please read the entire paper, not just the excerpt I posted. Enjoy.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Thanks for the link.

To be honest, I really don’t see anything there which is very encouraging. We export food, that is mentioned. China is conspicuously not mentioned.

You posted a bunch of posts below that one, which sound like these you’re posting here.

One of the posters you were debating with there, did point out, we do not have a free trade agreement with China.

So why, then, does China have free access to our markets?.........

[Zhang Fei]

Pork prices in China have doubled in the last several months. Other meat prices have also increased in tandem because strapped consumers are turning to substitutes like chicken and beef. This news story has shed a little light on why Chinese pork prices have doubled - once again, the Chinese government is clamping down on news stories about a new, deadly epidemic originating in China. Except this time, the affected group consists of pigs and any country that imports Chinese pigs or pork products for animal feed. China’s sleazemasters have become desperate enough to import pork, probably to keep a damper on potential social unrest from skyrocketing food prices.

[Joe Boucher]

Didn’t I just read last week that there were severe problems with the Chi-coms pork industry?
Something about disease?

[elhombrelibre]

Will this pork be with or without lead?

[ken21]

yes.

an unknown disease spread thru’ the herds.

[ken21]

now that you mention it,

i can’t think of chinese food without pork!

[Joe Boucher]

Unknown, well at least they will have the American market.
Our govt. would never prohibit a chi-com, tainted product to be sold here.