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To: Chunga

That’s the beauty of America, isn’t it? You’re free to call me stupid and I’m free to call you an idiot.

I understand your point, but please try to understand mine. Both parties keep lowering their standards and throwing out ever more unacceptable candidates for us to have to hold our nose & vote for.

Where we have a chance to change that is in the primaries, where we can put some new candidates in the mix. I know you are a Fred supporter, I like Duncan Hunter, but would have no problem voting for Fred. He meets my 75% criteria of people I can agree with.

Rudy does not - he is more like 25% to me, the WOT is the only thing I can agree with him on. NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO steadfastly REFUSE to allow Rudy to be a candidate for us! We need to send a message that we will not go in the direction of liberals. If the worst occurs, and he is our candidate - in my book it is over for us.

I hate to say it, but I would rather see Hillary elected than Rudy - we would have a chance to overcome that - with Rudy, there is NO chance. The party will be dead and the future bleak. It is painful to think about & we must stress that Rudy cannot be nominated under ANY circumstance! You people need to stop saying you will vote for him over Hillary - you are sending a very bad message to the party. They know they can take your vote for granted.

That is more dangerous than a madwoman in the office, in my book.


171 posted on 08/28/2007 5:58:06 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: alicewonders
Okay, just understand that I'm not advocating a Giuliani nomination or presidency, and I'll tell you where I think you're wrong:

Both parties keep lowering their standards and throwing out ever more unacceptable candidates for us to have to hold our nose & vote for.

I don't think the George W. Bush nomination was a lowering of standards at all...in fact, I think he was an upgrade from his father and Bob Dole, the two previous GOP candidates...and of course all three were far better nominees than their Democrat counterparts (Bill Clinton, who is responsible for 9/11 by virtue of the wall of separation between federal intelligence and enforcement agencies, the lack of courage to sign off on the killing of Osama Bin Laden and the lack of action on the attempted destruction of the WTC via the parking deck; Al Gore, an idiot who was in on illegal fundraising targeting Chinese donors and who wants to bring the American economy down using mythology as science; and John Kerry, who has slandered our troops since The Vietnam War and wants us to pull out of Iraq). I believe that any Republican candidate is far, far better than the Dem nominee, who is Hillary Rodham Clinton...this is a 100% surety.

Where we have a chance to change that is in the primaries, where we can put some new candidates in the mix. I know you are a Fred supporter, I like Duncan Hunter, but would have no problem voting for Fred. He meets my 75% criteria of people I can agree with.

Agreed. I could vote for Duncan, I would support Duncan were he the GOP candidate...absolutely.

Rudy does not - he is more like 25% to me, the WOT is the only thing I can agree with him on.

What? You disagree with Rudy on Supporting Israel? You disagree with Rudy on Lowering Taxes? You disagree with Rudy that overturning Roe vs. Wade via the courts is a legitimate scenario? You disagree with Rudy that offensive art should not be publicly funded? You disagree with Rudy on the issue of dismantling the affirmative action program for NYC contracts? You disagree with Rudy regarding his pro-death-penalty stance? On school vouchers? On energy independence? On Kyoto? On citizenship for Elian Gonzales? On pardoning Scooter Libby? On saying no to socialized medicine? On interrogating terrorists using any means available? On The Patriot Act? On getting rid of the Death Tax? On supporting the ban on partial-birth abortion?

Do you realize that Hillary Clinton's stance on every one of these issues is in direct opposition to Giuliani's?

How does any conservative disagree with Rudy on any of these issues...yet you have just stated that you don't agree with him on any of them! If this is the case, you are, by definition, not a conservative at all!

I hate to say it, but I would rather see Hillary elected than Rudy...

Yes, that is becoming very, very clear.

The party will be dead and the future bleak. It is painful to think about & we must stress that Rudy cannot be nominated under ANY circumstance! You people need to stop saying you will vote for him over Hillary - you are sending a very bad message to the party. They know they can take your vote for granted.

They can take my vote for granted. I am a Republican...and I want to defeat Hillary in the general election...the woman will ruin the country.

I want to defeat every Democrat running for office anywhere in America! They are appeasers, traitors, anti-Military socialist pigs!

That is more dangerous than a madwoman in the office, in my book.

She is no madwoman. She is a methodical, communist attorney bent on the destruction of this country!

NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO steadfastly REFUSE to allow Rudy to be a candidate for us!

Us? I can't even tell that you're a conservative anymore.

We need to send a message that we will not go in the direction of liberals. If the worst occurs, and he is our candidate - in my book it is over for us.

No. It isn't over for us. The GOP survived Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford...we were given Jimmy Carter as an alternative and he brought down the economy...it took 5 years of a Reagan presidency to get back on track. If Hillary is elected for just one term, the damage will be irreversible.

VOTE FOR THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE POSSIBLE IN THE GOP PRIMARY...BUT VOTE REPUBLICAN...NO MATTER WHAT.

172 posted on 08/28/2007 1:02:33 PM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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