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Sportsmen's Issues Thrust Into 2008 Race
NY Sun ^ | August 24, 2007 | JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 08/24/2007 3:16:16 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: STONEWALLS; george76; proud_yank

Excise taxes on hunting equipment, ammo, etc. already provde the funding for wildlife management on most federal and most lands.

Hunters pay for wildlife management already, while Anti hunting organizations have spent years, and their money, trying to kick hunters off public lands. This will make it harder for the antis to be successful.


21 posted on 08/25/2007 9:00:03 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Old 300
Deterrence is dead.

Then why are more and more police departments becoming militarized with SWAT teams?

We are at the mercy of other checks and balances.

What's that supposed to mean?

May God protect us.

May He always, but God helps those who help themselves. End the war on drugs. Buy a clue from the failure of alcohol prohibition.

The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment

Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]

22 posted on 08/25/2007 9:36:25 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: vetsvette; girlangler
bttt

The President needs to fire the virulently anti-hunting head of the Fish & Wildlife Service

23 posted on 08/25/2007 9:41:17 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: neverdem
Then why are more and more police departments becoming militarized with SWAT teams?

To ensure government superiority, of course. And domestically speaking, they have total hegemony. Total as in complete, unrestrained control over the people -- at will.

We are at the mercy of other checks and balances.

The ultimate "check" on government power: our ability to overthrow a tyrannical regime, has been usurped with hardly a whimper of protest from the majority of Americans. The founding fathers, many of them anyway -- the authors of the second amendment included, knew this could happen and the Bill of Rights was written to try to outline the power of the people to control their own destiny. The founding fathers understood that history could be played out the way it has, and they wanted to buy us as much time as possible.

Checks on government power were understood to be needed due to the fallibility of the human beings who would find themselves in positions of government authority. All that's left now is the law as it stands, inter-branch checks and balances, and the freedom of the press, such that it is. These 'checks' were known to be corruptible. The rebels who founded this country knew that force was the only thing that tyrants understood. And so it has been essential that we be deprived of adequate force with which to confront potential tyrants.

We live in a super state. We are completely at its mercy. So far it has been benevolent. That could change at a moment's notice.

24 posted on 08/25/2007 9:44:04 AM PDT by Old 300
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To: girlangler; B4Ranch

The beaurocrazies have also increased the permit fees against out of state hunters ...

The invading urban masses have passed no bear hunting season laws...


25 posted on 08/25/2007 9:47:01 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I saw that George.

Thought the current director is a former state wildlife agency director and very pro hunting. I could be wrong though. During the Clinton administration the FWS was full of antis. I wrote editorials on Jamie Rappaport Clarke, the fisheries division using Wallop/Breaux funds for endangered species recovery, while ignoring mitigation obligations.

I actually received a letter to the editor from Clarke. She is with the Fund For Animals or one of those organizations now.


26 posted on 08/25/2007 9:48:30 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

Thanks.

the Fish & Wildlife Service has not been helpful generally...introducing Canadian wolves and Canadian lynx to America so as to close off our access.

The fake lynx fur pelt reports to congress in an attempt to deny access to millions of acres of public land by the public was special.

/s


27 posted on 08/25/2007 9:58:14 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

>The President needs to fire the virulently anti-hunting head of the Fish & Wildlife Service.<

Now, you are asking for a miracle. Dream wildy while you are at it, remove all the game laws of the past 20 years too.


28 posted on 08/25/2007 10:24:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

It will never happen.

But it is fun to dream.


29 posted on 08/25/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Old 300
The ultimate "check" on government power: our ability to overthrow a tyrannical regime, has been usurped with hardly a whimper of protest from the majority of Americans. The founding fathers, many of them anyway -- the authors of the second amendment included, knew this could happen and the Bill of Rights was written to try to outline the power of the people to control their own destiny. The founding fathers understood that history could be played out the way it has, and they wanted to buy us as much time as possible.

Checks on government power were understood to be needed due to the fallibility of the human beings who would find themselves in positions of government authority. All that's left now is the law as it stands, inter-branch checks and balances, and the freedom of the press, such that it is. These 'checks' were known to be corruptible. The rebels who founded this country knew that force was the only thing that tyrants understood. And so it has been essential that we be deprived of adequate force with which to confront potential tyrants.

We live in a super state. We are completely at its mercy. So far it has been benevolent. That could change at a moment's notice.

Keep dreaming. Other than the relatively few SWAT team members, compared to the rest of the police force who are on the donut watch, they can't do jack besides writing tickets.

30 posted on 08/25/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: george76

The invading urban masses have passed no bear hunting season laws...only until there is bears roaming into their backyards looking to eat Mommy’s pet poodle.


31 posted on 08/25/2007 10:59:09 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: neverdem
Keep dreaming. Other than the relatively few SWAT team members, compared to the rest of the police force who are on the donut watch, they can't do jack besides writing tickets.

They'll do what ever the TV tells the people they should be doing — and with few complaints.

Americans are what the TV tells them to be.

32 posted on 08/25/2007 11:57:40 AM PDT by Old 300
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To: Old 300
Americans are what the TV tells them to be.

That may be so. Maybe that explains why I watch less and less? Other than an occasional movie, it's mostly moronic. I only have basic cable now. The only thing I miss is Special Report with Brit Hume.

33 posted on 08/26/2007 9:34:15 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

All information media always deserves a critical eye, I’d say.


34 posted on 08/27/2007 4:29:18 AM PDT by Old 300
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To: neverdem
How about getting the BATFE to stop bans on imports of foreign-made firearms and ammunition, whether of a "sporting" or other (i.e. military) origin?

Try getting a newly-imported Chinese SKS, or the steel-cored ammo that it shoots. You could do this up until Clinton became President - and, in fact, I bought and have such a gun and some of that ammo. But BATF has the authority under the '68 GCA to ban imports of "non-sporting" rifles and ammo. I'm sure that there are many other cases - I'm just relating the one that I know for certain.

35 posted on 08/27/2007 7:59:21 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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