[Poser]

“Here’s a third ham-fisted,”

Somebody put out a talking points list.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

Somebody put out a talking points list.

Not really. The term "ham-fisted" gets used all the time to describe schlock filmmaking. Or, consider a few groaner, played-out FReeper items that might lead one to believe in the talking points:

1. Jump The Shark
2. Beyond the Pale
3. Ilk
4. Bush's fault

Get my point?

[r9etb]

Somebody put out a talking points list.

Doubtful. Ham-fisted is a pretty standard description of movies, books, or whatever that are, well, ham-fisted in trying to Communicate Their Message.

Other ham-fisted fare includes any "Billy Jack" movie; Ayn Rand's novels; most movies that tout the fact that they were made by Christians; and the rantings of certain FReepers, DUers, and any other excessively earnest on-line posters....