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To: lizol
I will tell you the simple difference...if the Nazi regime had not risen to power (with the support of the German people at the time) and committed the agression and atrocities like it did at Ausschwitz and throughout Europe, the allies would NEVER have committed a bombing campaing like Dresden to break their will and defeat them.

There is no moral comparison or equivalence. The former occurred because tyrants and those who supported them committed violence and agression against innocent peoples and nations. The latter happened as the allies committed violence against the perpetrators and those nations, cities, and peoples who provided material and moral support in the all out war that World War II was.

It was hell...but it was unleashed on the hellions and their peoples. In the end, the German people and Japanese people wanted NO MORE. They were made over into good Germans and good Japanese by the horrific events. I know this for sure...had Hitler and Tojo succeeded, the hell on earth that would have resulted would have been many orders of magnitude worse...world-wide...than what occurred at Dresden and Hiroshima and Nagasaki to put a stop to it.

We waged all out war to end what would have been a much more, continuing brutal reign of terror and killing world-wide had we not stopped it in the fashion that we did.

10 posted on 08/23/2007 1:07:06 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

The reason there have been no more decisive victories since WWII is because we don’t fight “all out” any more.


17 posted on 08/23/2007 1:13:21 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: Jeff Head
Well said.

Chuck Yeager said as much in his autobiography. The fighter group he was assigned to were given a strafing mission towards the end of the war. No one was thrilled about it, but they did it.

War is a grim business. If you fight, you do it totally. Hoping that war will never happen again.

45 posted on 08/23/2007 1:57:35 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Jeff Head
I will tell you the simple difference...if the Nazi regime had not risen to power (with the support of the German people at the time) and committed the agression and atrocities like it did at Ausschwitz and throughout Europe, the allies would NEVER have committed a bombing campaing like Dresden to break their will and defeat them.

We waged all out war to end what would have been a much more, continuing brutal reign of terror and killing world-wide had we not stopped it in the fashion that we did.


Actually now your glossing over history, as in a historical perspective your argument is just wrong. The problem with Dresden is that the Allies bombed a city full of refugees while at the same time not bombing the train lines to Auschwitz. I don't want to open a can of worms, because history is just that: history. However, what I need to point out is that one cannot really use Auschwitz as a justification for Dresden, because that is not how and why it happened.

Best to keep both apart: One way or the other way round.
53 posted on 08/23/2007 2:10:12 PM PDT by wolf78 (Penn & Teller Libertarian - Equal Opportunity Offender)
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