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Submarine Carrying 5 tons of Cocaine Seized Off Guatemala
FOX ^ | 08/23/07 | Unknown

Posted on 08/23/2007 12:30:24 PM PDT by Froufrou

A submarine-like vessel filled with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cocaine was seized off the Guatemalan coast, U.S. officials said.

Four suspected smugglers were operating the self-propelled, semi-submersible vessel when it was located and seized on Sunday evening by officials from the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, U.S. Navy and the U.S. Coast Guard, the Border Patrol said in a news release Wednesday.

When the suspects realized they had been spotted by drug-surveillance aircraft patrolling the eastern Pacific, they scuttled the vessel but were unable to escape.

Coast Guard officials, guided by the reconnaissance plane, intercepted the vessel and detained the reputed smugglers, who were transporting approximately 5.5 tons of cocaine worth $352 million, the Border Patrol said.

Several drug-carrying submarines operated by Colombian drug cartels have been discovered in recent years.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: bcbp; borderpatrol; cartels; cocaine; colombia; drugtrafficking; interdiction; latinamerica; mrleroymourns; submersible; uscg; wod; wodlist
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To: BearCub

“Yes, if it’s stopping vessels that aren’t either in or entering U.S. waters or waters of nations we have a treaty with. Stopping a vessel on the high seas is piracy.”

Wouldn’t the fact that it wasn’t a flagged vessel have a bearing on it?


61 posted on 08/23/2007 3:33:45 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan
Wouldn’t the fact that it wasn’t a flagged vessel have a bearing on it?

Nope. If the boat is flying the flag of a nation we have a treaty with, our military can stop it. With no flag visible there is even less justification.

62 posted on 08/23/2007 3:59:18 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: BearCub
Yeah Right!

I'm sure this "submarine" was a fully registered "foreign merchant vessel" with the Guatemalan registry.

Send your question about violation of the "Geneva Convention" to the nation of registration.

63 posted on 08/23/2007 4:09:59 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; FARS; milford421

Ping.


64 posted on 08/23/2007 8:03:32 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( God loaned us many of the Brave people, those who keep us free and safe and for balance liberals..)
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To: Froufrou

352 million? Shit, no wonder cocaine is abundant. This is more than Guatamala’s annual GDP!!!


65 posted on 08/24/2007 12:09:32 AM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: StormEye

Hmmm...would that start a gang war of global proportions? That may be a good thing...


66 posted on 08/24/2007 7:24:01 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: colorado tanker

They have to contact the country under which the vessel is flagged and get permission.

Then they board.

If it is a US flagged ship, and in international waters, they can board. That’s how they caught the notorious ‘little tiger’ drug running gangster 12 miles off the coast of Mexico, now on trial in San Diego.


67 posted on 08/24/2007 7:30:58 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: jnsun
I'm sure this "submarine" was a fully registered "foreign merchant vessel" with the Guatemalan registry. Send your question about violation of the "Geneva Convention" to the nation of registration.

I never said it was. I was just speculating about the practice of stopping vessels on the high seas (i.e., not in anyone's territorial waters). I'm not sure if that's what happened here - my question was academic.

68 posted on 08/24/2007 7:31:10 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: xc1427

The US is pretty much the only country in the hemisphere that can afford it. That’s why pretty much all production ends up here.


69 posted on 08/24/2007 7:32:17 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: BearCub

See post #67.


70 posted on 08/24/2007 7:32:52 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
They have to contact the country under which the vessel is flagged and get permission.

...and if the vessel isn't flying a flag, they can only board it if it's American.

71 posted on 08/24/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: BearCub
and if the vessel isn't flying a flag

There are other ways to ID a vessel.
72 posted on 08/24/2007 7:33:50 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

See post #71 re if they refuse to show their nationality.


73 posted on 08/24/2007 7:34:22 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: karnage

Panama, Guatemala, whatever it takes.


74 posted on 08/24/2007 7:37:00 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: StormEye

“Why bother seizing the sub. Just torpedo or depth charge it. No one would admit to knowing it was missing.”

What? And miss out on all that “winning the WOD” PR?


75 posted on 08/24/2007 7:40:57 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: BearCub

I think Bear Cub, once it was observed that cargo was being tossed overboard, one of two things could be noted:

1. The vessel was in distress and required assistance.

2. The crew was in the act of polluting the environment or destroying evidence of a crime.

I think any of the above constitutes grounds to investigate further by the USCG.


76 posted on 08/24/2007 7:53:02 AM PDT by fatboy
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To: Froufrou; coloradan
Three similar incidents over the last couple of years (FR threads):

Submarine with cocaine seized off Costa Rica | Nov 20, 2006

Coast Guard Seizes 2 Tons of Cocaine ~~ intercepted a submarine-like vessel in the Pacific ocean | September 15, 2005

Cocaine-smuggling submarine busted-Colombia | Fri, Mar 25, 2005

77 posted on 08/24/2007 9:50:40 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks for the info. Coasties are good people, I knew they wouldn’t be out breaking the law.
78 posted on 08/24/2007 10:56:16 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: All

I think the guys who bailed out and left all that coke behind are dead men.


79 posted on 08/24/2007 11:00:56 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (He who angers you controls you.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Reunite Gondwanaland, eh?

I say...

FREE CONSTANTINOPLE!


80 posted on 08/24/2007 11:25:43 AM PDT by karnage
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