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Chandler (AZ) boy suspended for sketching gun
East Valley Tribune ^ | August 21, 2007 | David Biscobing

Posted on 08/22/2007 5:17:53 AM PDT by radar101

Family members provided an image as an example of the sketch drawn by the boy. PROVIDED

An East Valley eighth-grader was suspended this week after he turned in homework with a sketch that school officials said resembled a gun and posed a threat to his classmates.

But parents of the 13-year-old, who attends Payne Junior High School in the Chandler Unified School District, said the drawing was a harmless doodle of a fake laser, and school officials overreacted.

“I just can’t believe that there wasn’t another way to resolve this,” said Paula Mosteller, the boy’s mother. “He’s so upset. The school made him feel like he committed a crime. They are doing more damage than good.”

Payne Junior High officials did not allow the Tribune to view the drawing. The Mostellers said the drawing did not depict blood, injuries, bullets or any human targets. They said it was just a drawing that resembled a gun.

But Payne Junior High administrators determined that was enough to constitute a gun threat and gave the boy a five-day suspension that was later reduced to three days.

The Tribune isn’t publishing the boy’s first name at the request of his parents.

The suspension follows an unrelated incident earlier this month in which Gilbert police were called to Payne Junior High School to investigate a rumor of a girl bringing a gun on campus. No gun was found and a letter was sent home to parents.

In the letter, school officials told parents about the incident and indicated there would be a zero-tolerance policy toward gun threats.

Chandler district spokesman Terry Locke said the school is not allowed to discuss students’ discipline records. However, he said the sketch was “absolutely considered a threat,” and threatening words or pictures are punished.

The school did not contact police about the threat and did not provide counseling or an evaluation to the boy to determine if he intended the drawing as a threat.

The Mostellers said their son has no discipline record at the school because they just moved from Colorado this year.

The sketch was one of several drawings scratched in the margins of a science assignment that was turned in on Friday. The boy said he never meant for the picture to be seen as a threat. He said he was just drawing because he finished an assignment early.

School officials issued the suspension on Monday afternoon and notified the student’s father, Ben. He met with school officials and persuaded them to shorten the suspension from five days to three.

A second student was also suspended Monday for a sketch on his homework. However, that student and his parents could not be reached for comment about the nature of that drawing.

Ben Mosteller was allowed to see his son’s drawing at the school but was not permitted to make a copy to bring home to his wife.

Paula Mosteller said she has been unable to reach the school’s principal, Karen Martin, or the vice principal, Dave Constance, since Monday to talk about the suspension. Martin and Constance did not return several phone calls to the school for comment.

When Ben Mosteller came to the school to discuss his son’s punishment, he said school officials mentioned the seriousness of the issue and talked about the massacre at Columbine High School — the site where two teenagers shot and killed 12 students and injured 24 others in 1999 at Littleton, Colo.

The Mostellers said the Columbine reference was extreme and offensive. They have contacted the district’s governing board about the incident.

“We understand that there was zero tolerance and the sketch could look like a gun, but the way this was handled was so horribly wrong,” Paula Mosteller said. “Hopefully, when my son goes back to school on Friday this will all be behind him. But a school accusing a child like this can have a huge effect on a child for the rest of his life.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: art; banglist; discipline; education; ohfercryinoutloud; publicschools; stuckonstupid; zerotolerance
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To: radar101
Payne Jr High
7655 S. Higley Rd.
Queen Creek, AZ 85242
Phone: (480) 224-2400
Fax: (480) 224-2420

Principal | Mrs. Karen Martin - martin.karen@chandler.k12.az.us

41 posted on 08/22/2007 6:08:54 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: wally_bert

According to the drawings I made in school, I posed a significant threat to NAZI Germany.


42 posted on 08/22/2007 6:12:30 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: radar101

He should have drawn a picture of one guy doinking another guy. Then they could have celebrated his tolerance for lifestyle choices.....


43 posted on 08/22/2007 6:16:54 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: radar101

I used to draw mushroom clouds and aerial dogfight scenes on my book covers. I guess I’d have been jailed today.


44 posted on 08/22/2007 6:21:51 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: 6ppc
I was thinking the same thing, but I was in school in the 60s. I don't remember drawing guns per se, but almost every day I drew jet planes bristling with guns. Some of them looked pretty cool too!

Same here, nothing but F-14s, 15s, and 16s all thru elementary school and into junior high. Then for some reason girls became more interesting.
45 posted on 08/22/2007 6:24:27 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: libstripper
That’s nothing. For my public speaking and rhetoric class (public school, late eighties) I did a presentation on the mechanics of flint lock and percussion cap muzzle loading weapons. As a prop I brought in a bayonet from a Springfield musket. I didn’t bother to tell the teacher about it. I’ll never forget the look on her face when I pulled it out from behind the podium. For a second speech I did a presentation on how to make hydrogen filled balloons from toilet bowel cleaner and aluminum foil. Fortunately the teacher was young and relatively easy going.

I’d be going to school shackled, wearing an orange jump suit, giving presentations on how to brew gin from apple cores if I was born 15 years later than I was.

46 posted on 08/22/2007 6:33:25 AM PDT by az_illini (Freedom is the freedom to say two + two make four. If that is granted, all else follows-G. Orwell)
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To: radar101

My 5 yr old can draw and label the internal parts of a 1911. For extra credit he can tell you how each interacts with the other. He’s not physically able to field strip one right now, but by the time he is, he’ll be able to do it in his sleep.


47 posted on 08/22/2007 6:36:33 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Puppage

I remember making guns out of modeling clay in elementary school. In fact - so did my friends. We would *gasp* point them at each other and pretend to shoot one another. We did get yelled at for falling out of our desks after ‘dying’.


48 posted on 08/22/2007 6:38:38 AM PDT by Frapster (Arrrgghhh - hands off me booty, mate!)
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To: radar101
VOUCHERS!
49 posted on 08/22/2007 6:39:52 AM PDT by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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To: radar101

“First God created idiots. That was for practice. Then he created school boards.” -Mark Twain


50 posted on 08/22/2007 6:40:57 AM PDT by Max in Utah (O Great and Benevolent Rulers of America: WHERE'S OUR FENCE?!)
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To: polymuser
HOME-SCHOOLING!
51 posted on 08/22/2007 6:44:05 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: radar101

If he had sketched porn, they’d laud him as a young artist..


52 posted on 08/22/2007 6:56:44 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: radar101

There should be zero tolerance for this, but I’m old enough to remember when boys sketched guns, bows and arrows, spears, et al. There was a time when this was all w/o evil intent or connotation. Weapons were just toys my kids outgrew. Not so any more. It’s a new day.


53 posted on 08/22/2007 6:57:46 AM PDT by Nanny7
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To: Nanny7
Weapons were just toys my kids outgrew. Not so any more. It’s a new day.

BS. The weapons did not change. Only the limp wrist-ed wimp educators writing the rules changed.
54 posted on 08/22/2007 7:22:47 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Nanny7
There should be zero tolerance for this...

If you think there should be zero tolerance for DRAWING a picture of a gun I truly believe that you're on the wrong forum....you might be more comfortable on other sites where the "Nanny State" is universally accepted.

56 posted on 08/22/2007 7:39:29 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: radar101
evil lunchbox
57 posted on 08/22/2007 7:40:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last.”)
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To: radar101

the disneyfication and de-maleing of the US continues...


58 posted on 08/22/2007 7:48:32 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: radar101

Cleraly, they have held the picture in the wrong orientation.

If the picture is shown in the correct orientation (rotated 90 degrees to the left from what is shown in the article), then it will become clear to you as well.

Its a picture of a government-provided low-cost housing project. An environmentally-friendly carbon dioxide scrubber has been placed on top of the 5 story building, next to a rooftop garden of small trees. What is (incorrectly) seen as a trigger, is actually a multi-level atrium located above a wing to the housing project where a homosexual outreach center resides. The device next to the atrium is a satellite dish so that the residents can receive real news from real news sources, such as Keith Olberman, Bill Moyers and Howard Dean.

Sheesh, can’t these educators get it right, errrr, I mean left?


59 posted on 08/22/2007 7:50:53 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Well said.


60 posted on 08/22/2007 7:51:23 AM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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