[snoringbear]

“Sorry. The view of animals as private property argument does not bestow the right to torture, maim, and abuse animals as you desire. Those of you who hold this position really ought to give it more thought (if possible).”

Well, I detect a certain amount of “tongue in cheek” commentary in this string. However, concerning my comments I am attempting to make the point that those who live on farms and ranches and live and even depend on domestic animals for their livihoods have a different perspective when it comes to dogs than urban apartment dwellers - more pragmatic for sure. I won’t even bother to comment on cat lovers, not worth the effort...

[over3Owithabrain]

Vick surely did not depend on these animals for his “livelihood”. Vick didn’t need to feed his buddies pit bull stew to survive. Vick wasn’t protecting the chicken coop from marauding packs of dogs. Vick is not a farmer, rancher, hunter, fisherman, etc. Vick is not a misunderstood victim of “city-dwellers” who simply don’t get how animals are treated by the rugged hearty types who populate the countryside.

[mutley]

I am attempting to make the point that those who live on farms and ranches and live and even depend on domestic animals for their livihoods have a different perspective when it comes to dogs than urban apartment dwellers

I grew up on a farm, and I don't fit your profile. The only point you made was what you think. So, please just speak for yourself.