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To: TChris
“Vigilantism is a bad genie to let out of the bottle.”

If the government is going to reject its Constitutional responsibility to protect our boarders then it’s not simple vigilantism.

If, as our Founding Fathers tell us, the power of government is derived from the consent of the governed, then the responsibility for protecting our country and our children is not just that of the government...its our own responsibility, too.

If the government can not or will not do the job, then responsible parents need to start asking themselves what is the point of allowing government that power?

For those who have stood on their soap boxes and said that our government is broken, there is no stronger evidence to support their case than this problem of illegal immigration.

Not even liberals are trying to argue that its not the federal government’s job to defend our boarders and to protect our citizens from the crimes that come with illegal immigration. This is the federal government’s responsibility, and the federal government is figuratively standing in the door and giving US citizens the ‘finger.’

They have decided that political power and personal profit is a higher priority then their Constitutional duties.

Inasmuch, the Constitutional “contract” that citizens willingly obligate themselves to has been broken by our government. It thereby falls to citizens to consider and decide if the federal government should retain the power they consistently abuse.

Perhaps its time for a change.

60 posted on 08/22/2007 10:16:50 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB
> Vigilantism is a bad genie to let out of the bottle.

If the government is going to reject its Constitutional responsibility to protect our boarders then it’s not simple vigilantism.

Vigilantism is never "simple". That's my point. Once a group of people decide they are outside the law, for whatever reason, then decide to establish and enforce their own idea of ideal law, then there's really no limit to where it can go.

If, as our Founding Fathers tell us, the power of government is derived from the consent of the governed, then the responsibility for protecting our country and our children is not just that of the government...its our own responsibility, too.

Agreed. The word there is "protecting", not "hunting" or "executing". The Constitution does not give citizens the authority to bypass the law and administer "street justice". It's dishonest to say that the Founding Fathers ever believed in that either.

If the government can not or will not do the job, then responsible parents need to start asking themselves what is the point of allowing government that power?

Maybe because our Republic works better than anything else that's ever been tried. Do you suppose a nation of vigilantes would be better than submission to the rule of Constitutional law?

For those who have stood on their soap boxes and said that our government is broken, there is no stronger evidence to support their case than this problem of illegal immigration.

OK. How does that justify vigilantism? How does it prove that vigilantism would be better overall than our Constitutional Republic?

The current failure--not permanent--of our government to deal with a serious issue is not evidence that throwing it out the window would make things better.

Not even liberals are trying to argue that its not the federal government’s job to defend our boarders and to protect our citizens from the crimes that come with illegal immigration. This is the federal government’s responsibility, and the federal government is figuratively standing in the door and giving US citizens the ‘finger.’

Again, this isn't going to justify vigilantism as some sort of solution to the problem. Quite to the contrary, vigilantism multiplies the problem.

Instead of a few government officials, who can be removed from office, failing in their duties, vigilantism would empower anyone with a bone to pick with anyone else to hunt and execute those deemed a threat. What happens when a vigilante group decides you are a threat, for some reason? Your rejection of the rule of law means you don't get a trial, fair treatment or a defense of any kind.

Take a few minutes to think real hard about how it would be to be the one on the wrong side of a gang of vigilantes. It's not nearly as comfortable as the self-righteous position of the executioner.

They have decided that political power and personal profit is a higher priority then their Constitutional duties.

True, some have.

Is your personal agenda and list of perceived enemies a higher priority than the Constitution?

Inasmuch, the Constitutional “contract” that citizens willingly obligate themselves to has been broken by our government. It thereby falls to citizens to consider and decide if the federal government should retain the power they consistently abuse.

OK. Sure.

The way this is accomplished is at the ballot box in November. Otherwise, your self-righteous hunger for power is no more correct than theirs. Only your goals are different.

Perhaps its time for a change.

Change by electing honorable representation, not by living outside the law.

61 posted on 08/22/2007 10:43:16 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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