Posted on 08/21/2007 1:24:01 PM PDT by Delacon
Collier County Sheriff Don Hunter announced a new plan to target illegal immigrants. He says the plan will save taxpayers millions and send violent criminals back to their country.
Sheriff Hunter believes the training the deputies and officers are taking could save taxpayers $9 million a year. The figure is based on the number of illegal immigrants in the Collier County Jail which is around 25%.
25 deputies and officers from the road and the jail already started their training.
Barbara Gonzales with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, "They're being trained to know what a false document looks like so when we're presented with a visas and would at least have a suspicion."
The Government issues more than 230 types of Visas so identifying a fake one won't necessarily be easy. The goal is to identify criminals that are illegal immigrants so U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement can speed up the deportation process if possible.
Sheriff Hunter says, "The people we are arresting here that our criminal aliens are responsible for many, many criminal offenses here in Collier County. What we're doing is trying to break that cycle."
The Sheriff says there are 20 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and only 5,700 immigration officers. The Collier County Sheriff's Office is one of three agencies in the country training with U.S. Federal Authorities. Sheriff Hunter believes other agencies in Florida and around the country will follow their lead.
YES!
At least some law enforcement agencies are taking it seriously.
watch for the feds to come down on the county, they don’t like it when someone rocks the boat.
I wonder if this means we can get our tax money back from ICE and Homeland Security since they weren’t willing to fufill their obligation...
Nah. I am torn over states making new anti-illegal immigration laws. It is clearly a federal prerogative. In this case, the states are obeying federal law. When state/local law enforcement says “hey we caught an illegal breaking federal law by being an illegal so here he is and you take care of it”, I love it. Its a way for the states to pressure the fed to get up off its ass and do its job. A job that is the fed’s responsibility and clearly hurting individual states.
” Not only are illegal immigrants willing to do jobs Americans wont do but they are more willing to do crimes than Americans. Way more.”
We are the dumping ground for Mexican criminals. Just like when Castro opened his jails, and dumped them on Carter.
“We are the dumping ground for Mexican criminals”
You got that right, infidel. Colorado is one of the worst, anymore.
Not sure that you are correct on that since iilegal aliens live in a State first and the United States second.
“Not sure that you are correct on that since iilegal aliens live in a State first and the United States second.”
Can I be a citizen of your state yet not a citizen of the US? No. I am entitled to the rights of an american citizen first. You are a US citizen first, then a citizen of your respective states. Was always thus.
For one, illegals commit a crime when they enter or stay here illegaly! They keep on committing crimes, in spite of what Heraldo says!
An illegal alien is neither a citizen of a state, nor a citizen of the United States, though he must live IN a state. If tomorrow the State of California were to grant rights to illegal aliens residing there, (any rights which that state may confer on individuals - e.g. right to public schooling, right to a drvier’s license, right to free health care, whatever) Arizona would NOT be obliged to follow, either under the Constitution (since they are not US Citizens) or under the “full faith and credit” clause.
It is easy to say that it is the Fed’s problem, but the ICE has many fewer people than do the combined Law Enforcement agencies of the several cities, counties and States which are having the problem. States need to empty their prisons of illegals and turn them all over to the Feds. The Feds will soon find that they have found the will to deport them.
Illegal immigrant?
Want an ID?
Here’s the place to go!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Park
Honestly, this isn’t about an old song.
MacArthur Park in Los Angeles is a KNOWN place for picking up fake IDs.
Especially for illegals.
LAPD have raided the area occassionally, but now sufficiently to
snuff it out.
(And even if they’d did, it would be “Whack-A-Mole” as the counterfeiters
would just pop up elsewhere in the LA Basin)
“An illegal alien is neither a citizen of a state, nor a citizen of the United States, though he must live IN a state.”
He also must live IN the US. I think I have established that the federal laws that cover citizenship of the US(or lack thereof) come before laws of citizenship of the states. It is the federal governments responsibility to enforce its laws regarding ANY immigrants over those of the states. That the federal govt is failing in its constitutional obligations does NOT support your argument that the states have ANY prerogative over the federal government. Look at it this way. A state can coddle an illegal immigrant all it wants, but if the fed chooses to swoop in and deport ANY illegal immigrant, then its a done deal. Can you say Elivra?
We’re on the same side, we just differ in tactics. It is not as American Citizen qua American Citizen that we suffer from the influx of illegal aliens, it is as residents of Los Angeles, Chicago or Newark to name three cities which, along with their respective counties, have more law enforcement officers than does the entire ICE.
While the Supreme Court could rule tomorrow that no city can refuse to work with the ICE (”sanctuary cities”) in practice, it is up to the local. county and State police to WANT to work with ICE.
That’s my only point. Cities like San Francisco (unfortunately my city) won’t do anything that the Feds or SCOTUS require simply because of BDS.
“We’re on the same side, we just differ in tactics.”
Oh I know we are on the same side. And I am not trying to just be contentious. Tactics matter. If the repercussions of tactics didn’t matter then we should all just become liberals where the constitution is a “living thing” and where we are a country of men instead of a country of laws. But we are cons. We should understand that public passions are what the framers were most afraid of. They built a constitution that divided powers between the executive, legislative and judicial branches and between fed and states govts. As I’ve said before I love it when states help the fed do its bidding when it comes to immigration but I don’t like it when the states take over that responsibility. Nowhere in the constitution does it give the states the prerogative over immigration. As far as the fed forcing the states to do what it wants them to do, you have two choices. One, withold federal money. Or two, well does enforcing the civil rights acts in the south during the 60s ring a bell?
ping
I’ve been meaning to write a post on that. Conservatives need to learn to “just say no” to Federal money if they are serious about keeping gov’t local. From speed limits to drinking ages to global warming restrictions to any other infringement of our rights, the Feds only have the power of the purse to force States to do their bidding. Stop taking Federal Highway Funds (and demand a 100% return on every Federal $ that the IRS takes from your state - unlike CA where we only get 80 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington) and you’ll soon see an increase in freedom.
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