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To: lady lawyer

Are you Susan Estrich? Or Gloria Allred?


32 posted on 08/20/2007 11:52:37 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

No. But I’m the mother of four daughters, who I raised to know that no one had a right to touch them against their will, especially in a sexual way. And if some teenage boy had been grabbing repeatedly at any of their breasts while they were in school, I would have called the cops. I can’t believe that you think that they should just have to duke it out.


35 posted on 08/20/2007 11:55:41 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: ozzymandus

Steinem????


40 posted on 08/20/2007 11:58:51 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: ozzymandus
Are you Susan Estrich? Or Gloria Allred?

I get tired of ad hominem posts like that. It denotes a lack of thought on your part..... How much easier to call names, than to actually address her point.

First off, I wonder how willing you'd be to dismiss this, if these boys had pawed your daughter. The description of their actions denotes a bit more than the pats on the butt that of the headlines were making it out to be.

For what it's worth, I was curious to see if the prosecutor had any business hauling the boys to court in the first place.

Interestingly enough, he did: the boys' actions actually qualify as Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree, under Oregon Revised Statutes 163.415

163.415 Sexual abuse in the third degree. (1) A person commits the crime of sexual abuse in the third degree if the person subjects another person to sexual contact and:

(a) The victim does not consent to the sexual contact;...

Where "'Sexual contact' means any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person or causing such person to touch the sexual or other intimate parts of the actor for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of either party."

I'd say that their actions certainly satisfy the letter of the law in this instance.

Now, given the age and patent stupidity of the boys, whether the prosecutor should have taken it as far as he did, is a valid question. But the case is NOT silly. Were these guys older, I'd say they definitely belonged in the slammer.

75 posted on 08/20/2007 12:19:53 PM PDT by r9etb
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