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Talk radio helped sink immigration reform [The study by the nonpartisan Project for Excellence.....]
The Politico ^

Posted on 08/20/2007 9:46:46 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Talk radio helped sink immigration reform

By: Mike Allen Aug 20, 2007 09:19 AM EST

Opposition from key talk radio and cable TV hosts helped kill the immigration bill in Congress, a study out today concludes.

“What listeners of the conservative talk radio media were hearing, in large part, was that the legislation itself was little more than an ‘amnesty bill’ for illegal immigrants, a phrase loaded with political baggage,” it says.

The study by the nonpartisan Project for Excellence in Journalism quantifies what White House and Capitol Hill phone lines and e-mail inboxes already indicated: Talk radio focused on the immigration debate more intensely than the mainstream media did from April to June.

Conservative hosts touched off a brushfire in the Republican base that President Bush and other party leaders were helpless to contain.

"If media attention translates into political pressure, the argument that talk radio helped kill the immigration bill in Congress has some support in the data," the study says. "Thanks to energetic opposition from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage, immigration was the biggest topic, at 16%, on conservative talk radio in the second quarter."

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; amnesty; censorship; fairnessdoctrine; immigration; immigrationreform; mendacity; peoplepower; shamnesty; talkradio; voxpopuli
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1 posted on 08/20/2007 9:46:48 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

When your lies are exposed to the people it is depressing, isn’t it Congressman?

Life can get tough when a legislator can’t out talk a Conservative radio host.


2 posted on 08/20/2007 9:53:09 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Sub-Driver

I also understand that it you plan on walking on the sun, you should do it at night.


3 posted on 08/20/2007 9:53:12 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Sub-Driver
“What listeners of the conservative talk radio media were hearing, in large part, was that the legislation itself was little more than an ‘amnesty bill’ for illegal immigrants, a phrase loaded with political baggage,” it says.

Never mind that it was the truth.

4 posted on 08/20/2007 9:54:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"non-partisan" = liberal

BTW, I see they're spreading the tired old RINO/liberal memes that:

1. Conservatives are a bunch of unthinking rubes who take their marching orders from talk radio.

2. Nobody was really opposed to the shamnesty bill. It was those damned talk radio hosts that stirred up trouble.

3. The shamnesty bill wasn't really an amnesty bill. It was only smeared as an amnesty bill by the evil talk radio hosts.

"Non-partisan", right.
5 posted on 08/20/2007 9:55:43 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: Sub-Driver

Geez, this guy is REALLY sharp! (sarc)


6 posted on 08/20/2007 9:56:01 AM PDT by Grateful One
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To: Sub-Driver

These people have no clue how talk radio works.

PEOPLE TALKED!

People expressed their opinion and knew that opinion was a majority opinion across the fruited plain.

The MSM shuts down opinion. The MSM pushed the myth the majority wanted amnesty. THAT was the lie.

Talk radio was a truest expression of first amendment of the citizens.

Talk radio did not tell people what to think, listeners told talk radio what they thought and THEN they told congress.

(congress then bough industrial depends diapers and tried to blame someone else)


8 posted on 08/20/2007 9:59:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: B4Ranch

“Life can get tough when a legislator can’t out talk a Conservative radio host.”

LMBO!


9 posted on 08/20/2007 9:59:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Let's also not forget that much of the discussion was about procedure -- that the Senate was rushing a hastily written bill to a vote, that nobody had time to read, and without debate.

Many people objected to the fast-track secretive nature of this bill, given it's potential massive impact on the nation, and talk-radio exposed that aspect as well.

-PJ

10 posted on 08/20/2007 10:00:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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“If media attention translates into political pressure, the argument that talk radio helped kill the immigration bill in Congress has some support in the data,” the study says. “Thanks to energetic opposition from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage, immigration was the biggest topic, at 16%, on conservative talk radio in the second quarter.”

80% of the country was against the immigration bill. If conservative talk show was to blame for sinking the bill then 80% of the audience is conservative. That means that there are only 20% liberals in the United States. That’s the best news I have heard in a long time! s/


11 posted on 08/20/2007 10:03:35 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Sub-Driver
Wow that link is graphic intense. For those of us who are broadband impaired, here's a link to the less graphic intense print friendly version.
12 posted on 08/20/2007 10:05:34 AM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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To: Bitsy

I’ve heard from several folks in the know that Kit Bond was genuinely surprised at the number of phone calls and letters on the subject. This tells me that Kit really needs to come home.


13 posted on 08/20/2007 10:08:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Talk Radio is only explaining what we are seeing with our own eyes in our own cities and towns.......sheeeeeesh!


14 posted on 08/20/2007 10:18:24 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Sub-Driver
Conservative hosts touched off a brushfire in the Republican base that President Bush and other party leaders were helpless to contain.

Thank God for that!

15 posted on 08/20/2007 10:22:40 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG (Apparently my former party considers me an "ugly nativist".)
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To: billybudd

Ref post #5.

Thank you.

I was thinking the same exact thing, but you beat me to it.

According to the article, we as individuals are too stupid to think for ourselves.


16 posted on 08/20/2007 10:28:59 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

On a slightly deeper level, I believe most talk radio hosts log onto Free Republic. We started a brush fire here, and they picked up on it to carry the torch. Way to go!


17 posted on 08/20/2007 10:41:19 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The study by the nonpartisan Project for Excellence in Journalism...

That's a hoot. What was their old name, Idiots United?

18 posted on 08/20/2007 11:01:04 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Mark Levin exposed the bogus "non-partisan" partisan behind John Podesta's "Structural Inbalance in Talk Radio" propoganda "study".

Wonder who's under this rock?

19 posted on 08/20/2007 11:03:37 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Tom Rosenstiel, director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism...

Rosenstiel, a former media critic for the Los Angeles Times and chief congressional correspondent for Newsweek...

Yep, if I were non-partisan, I'd work for the LA Times and Newsweek too!

20 posted on 08/20/2007 11:06:48 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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