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To: Caesar Soze

If you really think FR is a hate site, why do you post here? Are YOU a hater?


295 posted on 08/16/2007 10:57:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson; DaveLoneRanger
If you really think FR is a hate site, why do you post here? Are YOU a hater?

I didn't say FR is a hate site. I was exploring DLR's metaphor. "Loose lips sink ships" is a WWII counterintelligence phrase that encourages military and civilian alike to keep secrets lest they be overheard and exploited by Axis agents. Its use in this context implies that there are secrets to be kept. It is a tacit admission that, however unfortunate, Fox 5's characterization was correct. DLR's admonition was probably not chosen with this conclusion in mind, but I think it is the most evident conclusion to one who is willing to follow the metaphor to its logical end.

Now, I should like to add that, even if I did think that FR was a hate site, I could post here while remaining faithful to my moral beliefs. I am not morally obligated to avoid distasteful websites. If FR was a hate site, I'd probably post here more, since I love riling up bigots and extremists who pervert the ideas of the great conservative thinkers into something unrecognizable and dangerous.

Finally, let's not forget this. Real hate sites have attempted to infiltrate FR in the past. Stormfront conducted their 2004 attempt openly, which is why it failed. Who knows what they've accomplished in secret? Perhaps this explains the level of vitriol that all too often appears on this site. Yesterday, a member called another member and all libertarians "faggots, junkies, and pervert freaks." There are occasional calls for religious proscriptions, nuclear attacks against shrines, and genocide in the Middle East. It shouldn't take an ACLU lawyer to see how such statements could be construed negatively by the media.

412 posted on 08/17/2007 5:13:51 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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