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F.R. defamed as "Hate Site" by Fox 5 News! [FOX News' Bill O'Reilly started this B/S]
Fox 5 News ^ | 8/16/07 | crusher

Posted on 08/16/2007 7:56:17 PM PDT by crusher

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To: singfreedom

LOL!

I guess some believe that Will Rogers should be drawn and quartered.

Those same folks believe that words will kill ya’.
To that I say...utter nonsense.

Words are powerful, to be sure.
But, they aren’t deadly weapons.


401 posted on 08/17/2007 3:40:08 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Old Sarge
The Sheep have heard The Word.

Scary but true words. Call the PC clowns and move along, nothing to see here...
402 posted on 08/17/2007 3:51:11 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: wardaddy

Bump that!


403 posted on 08/17/2007 4:00:23 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: crusher

That news piece was B.S. I have been coming to FR for years, and have never seen a KKK posting, or anything associated with it. Ditto for any neo-nazi group. Such postings would last about a nanosecond before a moderator would yank them or a legion of FReepers would excoriate the poster. Being pro-American sovereignty and against an invasion of illegal criminals is not hateful, it is survival.


404 posted on 08/17/2007 4:00:44 AM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: kristinn

Fox News Channel (FNC) was NOT involved in this channel 5 report.

It was prepared by the local reporter for the news dept of a station of Fox Broadcasting, admittedly a subsidiary of News Corporation, which also owns Fox News (FNC).

Just wanted to make sure people don’t protest to the wrong company.


405 posted on 08/17/2007 4:12:27 AM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF

The owner is ultimately responsible for the product. And, O’Reilly started this.


406 posted on 08/17/2007 4:20:52 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: tgslTakoma
When FOX was showing the FR site, I saw your name as one of the examples. Jeez, why do you always get all the publicity!!
:-))

[Mr] T

407 posted on 08/17/2007 4:21:50 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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It is really unforutunate that some people would choose to smear a great web site like this one.

I've been here since 2001, first as a lurker and then in August I signed on as a member. I can tell you the mods do great job of monitoring and deleting what they feel are bad posts.

Obviosuly, either the fella reporting the story or the people running the station are Bill Hillary butt-kissers who just happen to have a major grudge against people who are using this website to blow the whistle on the Clintons and the Democrats and their unethical and illegal and goonish activities. You know? nobody forces anyone to vsits website they don't want. It seems as though some people are looking for something to be offended by andh then trying to shut it down.

Bill O'Reilly is obviously the goofball that instigated this Bravo Sierra and Cluster Foxtrot. This fella as far as I'm concerned has lost all credibility as a legitimate news person.

Regards.......

408 posted on 08/17/2007 4:31:33 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: trooprally
Terrific. A year-and-a-half ago I posted an article from the Gazette papers, in which CASA of Maryland's Supreme Leader, Gustavo Torres, threatened to stalk and photograph the children of Maryland Minuteman members. That was an outrageous threat that Torres made, and I and many other Freepers said so.

That was in February of 2006.

In May of this year, according to news reports, somebody "set a fire" at the Gaithersburg illegal day labor trailer; a fire that had gone out on its own by the time that Montgomery County Fire crews arrived. Again according to news reports, a "floor board" had to be replaced on the trailer. I have to wonder if the "floor board" was maybe a step at the trailer door, which sounds much more like a teenage firebug than actions of the Klan, Nazis or other hate group.

And it is unconscionable that CASA, Torres, and Fox5 News (thanks to O'Reilly's lying rant that we are a hate site) have collaborated to imply that FR is among the ranks of the Klan and Nazis, as a hate group, and also implying that an 18 month old thread on FR is linked to the arson in May.

I really hate liars.

409 posted on 08/17/2007 4:50:05 AM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: Rudder
“Can we all share in a class-action suit against: Murdoch, News Corp, Fox”

Oh stop it dude, you need to wake up and stop acting like a left wing lunatic. Overall Fox is our ALLY. Only a small percentage of their reporting is liberal compared to the vast majority on NBC and the others.

410 posted on 08/17/2007 4:50:40 AM PDT by razzle
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To: kristinn

Harold Ford was on Hannity’s Tuesday radio show and said something about FR being a hate site. Actually he adopted O’Reilly’s position from their discussion last week. And Hannity put up a weak defense, noting that he’d been attacked on FR but that we’re not as bad as Kos.


411 posted on 08/17/2007 4:53:05 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Jim Robinson; DaveLoneRanger
If you really think FR is a hate site, why do you post here? Are YOU a hater?

I didn't say FR is a hate site. I was exploring DLR's metaphor. "Loose lips sink ships" is a WWII counterintelligence phrase that encourages military and civilian alike to keep secrets lest they be overheard and exploited by Axis agents. Its use in this context implies that there are secrets to be kept. It is a tacit admission that, however unfortunate, Fox 5's characterization was correct. DLR's admonition was probably not chosen with this conclusion in mind, but I think it is the most evident conclusion to one who is willing to follow the metaphor to its logical end.

Now, I should like to add that, even if I did think that FR was a hate site, I could post here while remaining faithful to my moral beliefs. I am not morally obligated to avoid distasteful websites. If FR was a hate site, I'd probably post here more, since I love riling up bigots and extremists who pervert the ideas of the great conservative thinkers into something unrecognizable and dangerous.

Finally, let's not forget this. Real hate sites have attempted to infiltrate FR in the past. Stormfront conducted their 2004 attempt openly, which is why it failed. Who knows what they've accomplished in secret? Perhaps this explains the level of vitriol that all too often appears on this site. Yesterday, a member called another member and all libertarians "faggots, junkies, and pervert freaks." There are occasional calls for religious proscriptions, nuclear attacks against shrines, and genocide in the Middle East. It shouldn't take an ACLU lawyer to see how such statements could be construed negatively by the media.

412 posted on 08/17/2007 5:13:51 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: crusher
I hate everybody!

I even hate myself!

And especially puppies!

J/K....I love you all! Even the jackasses who can eat me.

413 posted on 08/17/2007 5:29:39 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Caesar Soze

Well, I think it would take more than an occasional nasty post to make a forum a hate site. Ever peeked at DU or Stormfront?


414 posted on 08/17/2007 5:30:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: razzle

Joke...it’s a joke.


415 posted on 08/17/2007 5:31:49 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: crusher

Now FR is being mentioned in connection with the Ku Klux Klan? Can you express a conservative thought in this country without some lamebrain authoritarian calling you a hater?


416 posted on 08/17/2007 5:31:55 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: kristinn
Way to go Kristinn.

I knew this wouldn’t go away when BOR made that statement on his show.It was only a matter of time before other media outlets would pick it up.

They don’t care about facts only about what makes a good story.

417 posted on 08/17/2007 5:33:21 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: kristinn

Go get ‘em dude! This is ridiculous!


418 posted on 08/17/2007 5:34:10 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Jim Robinson; kristinn; tgslTakoma; BufordP; Doctor Raoul; 3D-JOY
For those who haven't seen it, here is the video.

The reporter appears as a willing accomplice to a hit piece and trying to group FR (which they label "conservative") in with neo-Nazi, Klan, and Skinhead hate web sites.

All at the behest of this CASA of Maryland leader Torres, a vicious bully, who had a running feud with the Minutemen and apparently battled local citizen opposition to start a new day labor center, before FR started verbally criticizing veiled threats that Torres made against the children of Minutemen.

A timeline:

Feb 22, 2006 CASA threatens to take actions against the Minutemen including picketing schools that children of Minutemen attend. CASA leader Torres said: ‘‘Then we are going to picket their [the Minutemen] houses, and the schools of their kids, and go to their work.” Original newspaper story here.

Feb 22, 2006 newspaper article about Minuteman hit with laser as he peacefully photographed CASA operation from a distance

March 2006 leftist local newspaper columnist applauds Torres for being:

willing to meet bullying in kind. He is training a counter-force of people with video cameras who are prepared to follow the Minutemen to their own jobs, even their homes. "We will let their neighbors know who these extremists are," Gustavo says. "It will be a shame to their families."

March 8, 2006 Bully Torres backtracks on threat to picket Minutemen children at schools by claiming misunderstanding (no claim that the reporter misquoted him). Copy and paste into your browser: http://www.casademaryland.org/press/mar8-2006(5).htm (don't want to link their website)

BTW, Torres was on Md. Governor O'Malley's transition team according to a blog named Stop the Invasion.

419 posted on 08/17/2007 5:34:17 AM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Caesar Soze

The media has one very interesting hobby. They will see an obvious problem and try to make seem less obvious. It’s almost like a game. They have done this will illegal immigration. The media, which LOVES statistics, is unwilling to go that route with ilegals and crime. The numbers are staggering. Their strategy is to make everyone who oppose illegal immigration become a Latino-hater. Drooling, toothless yahoos wandering the woods hunting Mexicans with their “shootin arns”. The media is aware that the American people would recoil at the statistics so they keep them well under wraps.

The problem? The Internet. Too many people are going outside the box. The media’s only hope is to slander the internet as Klan central. By next week, Jim Robinson will be some scraggly bearded stumpkicker smoking a corn cob pipe next to his still. A dangerous felon with a truck full of dynamite he wants to use to blow a Hispanic day care.

Before Clinton became President, the media’s favorite story was the sex life of a politician. Clinton robbed them of that joy. They have been soulless pimps ever since. Truth is irrelevant because they are in the Kingmaker and Kingbreaker business by any means necessary. This is made worse by Hillary running for office because the sexy headline elephant in the living room is off the table. Her husband was impeached for lying about a sexual affair with a young intern during a sexual harassment trial where he was the perp. Dear Lord, the media would massacre a room full of kittens to get a story like that on a Republican.

I think they are just bitter now.


420 posted on 08/17/2007 5:35:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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