Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Don’t Let the Smoking Police In (And Don't Lick Barbie)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081507/content/01125111.guest.html.guest.html ^ | August 15, 2007 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/16/2007 3:00:02 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 361 next last
To: mysterio
No, it is not. Enabling government to go after your favorite demon and then forcing those kids to live in chains is.

Suppose Marijuana is legalized in some state, say California.

Would you be opposed to the government "going after your favorite demon" by passing a law that made it illegal to expose children to Marijuana smoke?

141 posted on 08/17/2007 2:33:42 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Hunble
Refuse to pay your fine for a smoking violation, and eventually, a police officer with a gun authorized to use deadly force if you resist arrest, will pay you a visit.

Resisting arrest is in itself a crime, but I agree it shouldn't result in the use of deadly force unless absolutely neccessary (to protect the lives of the cops or bystanders).

As much as I'm for smokers' rights it's a stretch to say that they can use deadly force against you "for smoking". At least so far!

142 posted on 08/17/2007 2:35:09 PM PDT by Cementjungle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: Hunble

Well,See, then it’s your own damn fault for not paying the fine and necessitating the visit.

If you were a good submissive citizen you wouldn’t have lit up in the first place.


143 posted on 08/17/2007 2:37:45 PM PDT by swarthyguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: Paved Paradise
The only thing I disagree with Eric is that the things you name (eating right, quit smoking, and exercise) are things every responsible individual should take an active part in so that he/she lives the very best life he/she is able. Not everyone is blessed with good genes; some people work in very sick/unhealthy environments (think miners, printers, etc.) and they should WANT to take care of their bodies. I don’t mind the government promoting wellness at all.

People should take care of themselves out of a sense of personal responsibility. I work out 6 days a week. Gym, martial arts. The Tae Kwon Do workouts are brutal. I do it because I enjoy it. That doesn't mean I am in favor of a Gubmint law or coercion, taxpayer funded ads forcing you to perform the same workout for your own good.


144 posted on 08/17/2007 2:43:09 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Just another Joe
Please keep listing studies showing that smoking is dangerous. Yes, please do. You are setting a false barrier in saying the SHS doesn't cause *death*. Well, Oxyconting doesn't cause 'death' either but it's a serious health problem for some people. Ask Rush.

Also, none of your studies appear to study young people/children. Children, because of their smaller physiology, have a cannary in a coal-mine like response compared to consenting adults.

Ok - so you tried the left wing tactic of cutting and pasting a bunch of studies you didn't read as 'proof.' I checked the abstract of the first three. Shall you read them with me?

From the first: The total number of deaths from lung cancer attributable to exposure to tobacco smoke from spouses and other sources (mainly the workplace) was derived by applying estimated age- and sex-specific rates of death from lung cancer attributable to such exposure to the population of Canadians who have never smoked; about 330 deaths from lung cancer annually are attributable to such exposure.

Second study you listed but didn't read: There is highly significant (p < 0.001) heterogeneity between estimates from 47 studies of the lung cancer risk in lifelong non-smoking women associated with each 10 cigarettes per day smoked by the husband or with whether or not the husband smokes.

Ok - here's the third one you cite but didn't read because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Never smokers married to smokers had about a two-fold increased risk of lung cancer. Lung cancer risk in never smokers also increased with duration of exposure to a smoking spouse, but not with increasing number of cigarettes smoked per day by the spouse. Our findings are consistent with previous reports of elevated risk for lung cancer among never smokers living with a spouse who smokes cigarettes.

Done reading your spam. Three strikes and you're out. Too bad you can't make a point without cutting and pasting stuff you don't even read. Lame, very lame.

145 posted on 08/17/2007 2:55:50 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: Old Professer
should we have two sets of speed limits or perhaps increased penalties when a child is present?

Hi buddy ;)

Such laws already exist as penalty enhancements in several states when people are found to be speeding or DUI. A similar mindset is penalties for children who are not in car seats, etc.

Do you want to play the game the other way? What is now illegal that you want to legalize regarding child abuse? The line for distinctions is not 100% clear. Hell - I think that day care is child abuse. But legal enforcement comes down to the art of the practical and what can be made a consensus and doesn't overly burden individual rights. Asking some dumbass not to puff a cancer stick in a closed car with a minor is not too much.

146 posted on 08/17/2007 3:01:33 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard
Ready to fight that one?

Yup. Already started.

147 posted on 08/17/2007 3:03:47 PM PDT by elkfersupper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: mysterio
You are enabling authoritarian government to go after whatever annoys you. Additionally, you are teaching the children to not value freedom and to instead look to government to solve all of society's ills.

Annoys? See 43. Evidence. Anything the government does to stop someone from doing something is what you can catagorize as authoritarian.

Conservatives used to be for smaller, less intrusive government. It's funny how so many forget about that when it comes to their particular pet peeve.

Yes, conservatives have always stood for the right for abortion on demand. Right.

Smoking in a car with kids is not, has never been, and never will be child abuse.

Sounds similar to something I've heard before... 'segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation fo-evah!'

Cheers.

148 posted on 08/17/2007 3:05:33 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard

What do you do for fun, tear wings of baby moths?


149 posted on 08/17/2007 3:06:54 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard
Look at the RRs. Don't read the press release.
Do some research and use your own brain.

These studies are peer related and use epedemiology.
Know anything about the subject?

There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

150 posted on 08/17/2007 3:07:37 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]

To: ohioman
You ever hear of cracking a window?

Are you that obtuse? You exhale entirely out of the window? Ask your kid (if they can speak over the wheezing and asthma) if they can smell your cigarette smoking when you are in the car. If they can smell it, they are inhaling carcinogens.

151 posted on 08/17/2007 3:07:59 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: alisasny
I don’ understand your question as I can not equate smoking and gun ownership which are both legal to ... drunk driving.

I'll make it easy. Drinking is legal. Driving while drinking is not. Owning a gun is legal. Shooting unarmed non-agressors is not. Smoking is legal. Poisoning minors with smoking similarly should be illegal.

152 posted on 08/17/2007 3:10:15 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard

I just checked your info page; you seem to be one of many rather new arrivals here whose pastime is more antagonistic than interrogatory, just where would you draw the line on what level of your personal life the state can delve?


153 posted on 08/17/2007 3:11:16 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 148 | View Replies]

To: familyop

Is that really practical in places with lots of heat or cold?


154 posted on 08/17/2007 3:11:17 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: justiceseeker93
But we seem to differ on what constitutes "child abuse" to a degree sufficient for government intervention.

Filling a kids lungs with carcinogens is sufficient. I guess the resolution is to have it decided by our elected officials, whom we elected, and then adjudicated.

I'm sure this will be thrown out like other laws requiring that kids wear seatbelts, that children not under 18 cannot by cigarettes, and criminal enhancements for driving while drunk or at high speed with minors in the vehicle.

BTW - I think the term you are looking for is selective inclusion re: amendments being applied to states/munis.

155 posted on 08/17/2007 3:15:06 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Cementjungle
Drunk driving is hardly victimless, at least not on public roads.

I agree it shouldn't be legal. But if you are tanked and get in your car and drive home safely - the law would penalize you , but who is the victim?

I only bring it up because anytime someone says 'what would you ban next' I can't help but ask 'what would you unban?'

156 posted on 08/17/2007 3:16:53 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard
Asking some dumbass not to puff a cancer stick in a closed car with a minor is not too much.

Have you ever envisioned what your life would be if "for the children" didn't exist?

Would it have been as dreary as you fear?

If only those bastards had chosen you in that pickup game of ball, it all might have been so different.

Now's your chance, isn't it?

157 posted on 08/17/2007 3:17:19 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

To: mbraynard

.


158 posted on 08/17/2007 3:17:29 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: CSM
And you just provided the liberals the tool to ban home schooling.

Ok. So where do you want to draw the line on when the state can interfere or can't? Is it acceptable to inject a child with heroin? It's really silly to make a 'slippery slope' agreement on this stuff because you wind up either eliminating all protections or making stupid ones.

159 posted on 08/17/2007 3:19:04 PM PDT by mbraynard (FDT: Less Leadership Experience than any president in US history)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Eric Blair 2084
If Rush (or someone on his staff) is reading this thread how about advocating my tagline?


160 posted on 08/17/2007 3:20:37 PM PDT by cgbg (Al Gore, Michael Moore--tax the ugly boors!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180 ... 361 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson