[colorado tanker]

Their destination could not have been determined in advance, because so little was known of the Far West. The territory now embraced in the boundaries of California and Utah was then under Mexican government, and "California" was, in common use, a name covering the Pacific coast and a stretch of land extending indefinitely eastward. Oregon had been heard of a good deal, and it, as well as Vancouver Island, had been spoken of as a possible goal if a westward migration became necessary. Lorenzo Snow, in describing the westward start, said: "On the first of March, the ground covered with snow, we broke encampment about noon, and soon nearly four hundred wagons were moving to--WE KNEW NOT WHERE."

"Biography of Lorenzo Snow," p. 86.

[DanielLongo]

I'm not sure if we are disagreeing here. They had talked about these places and many of the membership desired to go elsewhere. There is a monument close to the Salt Lake Valley called the "This is the Place" monument. Those were the words uttered by Brigham Young when they arrived at the place he had seen in vision. Lorenzo snow did not know where they were headed. Brigham Young did not know exactly until they had reached the spot.

Again I think we are talking about the same thing here. Sorry if my tone seemed argumentative. It was not intended to be.