Posted on 08/16/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by DanielLongo
Whatever. Go finish your jell-o.
Oh, so, because they led decent lives up until the point where they slaughtered unarmed men, women and children, and didn't do it again that we know of... that means its ok... GTFO! This is no excuse!
The crusades have been demonized for centuries... fact is, the only thing wrong with the crusades is they didn’t whipe out the Muslims when they should have. Please don’t characterise them in the same breath as this massacre.
That's rich. So it is ok in your opinion to slaughter unarmed women and children as long as they are Muslim. I don't think your moral outrage is very convincing. You are obviously unbalanced on this point.
It’s the sesquicentennial of a shameful incident. Really Bad Event + Notable Anniversary = newsworthy.
You're very clever. Good job.
If an entire muslin population wages war against civilization, they are all fair game on the battlefield. You have children, young girls donning explosive belts for suicide mission; 12 year old boys are taught to behead for the video camera. They can no longer hide behind “woman and children” exempt status with that kind of treachery going on.
You forgot that black people were cursed, too.
2 Nephi 5
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
22 And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.
23 And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done.
There is a huge difference between an open war, and what the happened in Utah.
IF you believe the Muslims in the age of the crusades, who had been at open war with the western world for centuries, equates to the same as some people traveling through a territory to reach California.. you are dillusional.
Folks like you, who continue to deny the enemy and moral equivalency them to other things, are why the Muslim’s are still killing around the world. Islam does not teach, only kill the unpious christian or jew or other... it says KILL EVERY ONE OF THEM, period. Trying to claim that these migrants equate to the Mohammedists would be laughable, if it wasn’t so sad.
Good grief. YOu people.
I didn’t realize they had explosive belts and video cameras in the Middle Ages. Please wait to reply until you have reached puberty.
First, what does this have to do with the article? If you feel like bashing Mormons try a religious thread. This is not a discussion on doctrine, but on an historical event.
Second, the quote from 2Nephi has to do with the Lamanites of South America, not with blacks (ie of African descent). If that is what you are looking for try:
Genesis 4:15
And the LORD set a amark upon Cain
This is something you are going to have to take up with God, not me. Or would you like to bash Him?
You were pinned.
The crusades have been demonized for centuries... fact is, the only thing wrong with the crusades is they didn’t whipe out the Muslims when they should have. Please don’t characterise them in the same breath as this massacre. Had the Crusades been fully successful, muslim Terror in the modern age would not exist.
Who was massacred? Why? Where were those massacred people from? What were they doing or going to do? How were they going to exist? When: 1857, Here are some (maybe) answers. The massacred were from Arkansas. They probably were Baptist, I don’t know. Southern Baptist, Evangelicals, perhaps. Do you think anyone in Hollywood cares? Do you really think Northerners care? I am an Anglican Catholic, Northerner, and I think the movie should be about the massacred. About their hopes and dreams that ended that afternoon in the mountains.
I have no argument with that at all. I take exception when they start fictionalizing events and turn it into a conspiracy plot to smear leaders of a religious movement who were not involved. That is tantamount to Hollyweird writing a script based un priest sex abuse and fictionalizing that the Pope was aware but dismissive- or even enabling.
Par35 is correct. I posted this a couple of months ago, when the article became available. The articles are the same, click on the links and they both go to the same article on lds.org.
I know, see post #141 above. By the way, long time no see!
John Wayne's The Alamo is a wonderful movie that is full of action and drama, but the ending, where Davy Crocket blows up the Alamo's magazine room, really turned me off.
The same could be said for The Great Raid, which added a love element to what otherwise was a wonderfully accurate depiction of one of the greatest POW rescues in US history.
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