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Mountain Meadows Massacre (from LDS website)
Ensign, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints ^ | September 2007 | Richard E. Turley Jr., Managing Director, Family and Church History Department

Posted on 08/16/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by DanielLongo

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To: HwyChile

Well, ya all are NOT winning any converts with your attacks today. Cult indeed.


121 posted on 08/16/2007 3:54:48 PM PDT by tioga (Instead of "finding" yourself -- CREATE yourself!)
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To: tioga
Your question has been answered thoroughly. Are you now to play the victimized Mormon basher? Willful ignorance is always a fair target.

Did your God teach the massacre of unarmed women and children?

Yes or No?

It's that easy.

122 posted on 08/16/2007 3:55:01 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: TommyDale

I would be thinking the same thing too if I looked at my information, etc.

I wish I could remember my old name. I could probably do some kind of search on here and find some of my old posts. I used to be very active on here, but I got busy and stopped posting for a while. Plus, it gets old arguing with people all the time so I give it a rest sometimes.

I have so many names and passwords for different accounts (bills, banks, credit cards, etc.) that I had to actually put them on a piece of paper to remember them all. I really don’t like to use the same one for unprotected sites and protected accounts, etc.


123 posted on 08/16/2007 3:55:16 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: tioga

I am not trying to win any converts—I never have. Each person can believe what they want to believe. I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine. Who even said I was LDS to try to convert you?


124 posted on 08/16/2007 3:57:01 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: TommyDale

I do understand. Hopefully, we can get them engaged on the substance. We don’t want to be saying things like, “How did he/she get elected? I don’t know anyone that voted for him/her”.


125 posted on 08/16/2007 3:57:50 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo
Thanks -- I certainly was puzzled -- apparently there is another thread about a motion picture being made about this terrible historical episode. Some folks here seem to think that this thread is about the movie, which it isn’t.
126 posted on 08/16/2007 3:58:49 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Neither is it about “Mormonism”, but the kooks have a hard time with that. It is always blood in the water with them.


127 posted on 08/16/2007 4:01:33 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: HwyChile

The same thing happenned to me. I joined FR in 1999, but forgot my password. So I joined again in 2000 under this screen name. So I have actually been on FR for 8 years, not 7.


128 posted on 08/16/2007 4:04:40 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I also changed email accounts several times, so that makes it hard to find my information off old email accounts because I don’t have access to those any more. A lot of times, if you forget your password, they will send it to your email account. Problem is that I cannot get in that old email account anymore. It is easier to just start over sometimes.


129 posted on 08/16/2007 4:06:27 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
“Some folks here seem to think that this thread is about the movie, which it isn’t.”

When I skimmed it, I knew it was from the LDS church. However, I figured it was to clear up misconceptions that were in the movie. I did not look at the date on the article. I just assumed it was written in response to the movie.

130 posted on 08/16/2007 4:12:51 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: DanielLongo
I show you where God commanded it.

Can you show why God commanded it?
131 posted on 08/16/2007 4:38:45 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: DanielLongo

Defenders of BY will say he knew nothing of it before the murders.

His actions afterward do tend to prove his guilt.

He covered up the crime and protected the killers.

He had the memorial destroyed.

And yet there are those who still today will defend. Heck the LDS church has a college named after him. That is disgusting, in my opinion. To honor a vile evil man like that.


132 posted on 08/16/2007 4:42:49 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: HwyChile

Hmm, stoning people to death was also done in the Bible.

Yes polygamy was practiced in the Old Testement.

But Jesus taught against it. So who do you choose to believe? Jesus or the Old Testement?


133 posted on 08/16/2007 4:51:03 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
No it isn't. The thread you linked was about the movie, and is two months old

You might ask someone to read the two to you so you can compare them.

Here's the first paragraph from this one:

This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On September 11, 1857, some 50 to 60 local militiamen in southern Utah, aided by American Indian allies, massacred about 120 emigrants who were traveling by wagon to California. The horrific crime, which spared only 17 children age six and under, occurred in a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows, roughly 35 miles southwest of Cedar City. The victims, most of them from Arkansas, were on their way to California with dreams of a bright future.

And the first paragraph from the one Utah Girl posted several months ago, and I linked, which you say is different:

This September marks the 150th anniversary of a terrible episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. On September 11, 1857, some 50 to 60 local militiamen in southern Utah, aided by American Indian allies, massacred about 120 emigrants who were traveling by wagon to California. The horrific crime, which spared only 17 children age six and under, occurred in a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows, roughly 35 miles southwest of Cedar City. The victims, most of them from Arkansas, were on their way to California with dreams of a bright future.

And, the last from each ( you tell me which is which):

8. John D. Lee, “Lee’s Last Confession,” San Francisco Daily Bulletin Supplement, Mar. 24, 1877.

8. John D. Lee, “Lee’s Last Confession,” San Francisco Daily Bulletin Supplement, Mar. 24, 1877.

I await your retraction and apology.

134 posted on 08/16/2007 5:31:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: HwyChile
Ummmm..yeah! Just so happens you are a

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135 posted on 08/16/2007 5:34:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: loboinok
I know why God commanded it, because He explains it in the Bible. I have no argument with God. My argument was with the person who could not handle the truth about his/her own religion and wanted to start treating Jesus as though He were not the God of the Old Testament. He himself said, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Secondly, my point, which I must now address to you, is if you want to argue scripture, find another thread. This is about an historical event, not the philosophies of men.
136 posted on 08/16/2007 7:06:52 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: JRochelle

Do you read or just knee jerk your way around FreeRepublic? Try reading the article and the link to the actual transcript from the trial. You are so blinded by the lies you have been fed. You should start with the “Mormonism is a cult” tripe, just so we know where you stand. Take your bashing to another thread or try posting a thought like an adult.


137 posted on 08/16/2007 7:14:02 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: JRochelle; HwyChile
But Jesus taught against it. So who do you choose to believe? Jesus or the Old Testement?

Let's see, that is an interesting question. Are you saying the Old Testament is innacurate/wrong? Your question could also be worded, "So who do you choose to believe? Jesus or Jesus?"

That is mighty deep thinking for a Thursday evening.

So, Jesus taught against his own commandment? In other words He commanded men to do that which was contrary to His will? Or are you just saying that Jesus changed His mind? Perhaps you believe that Jesus is not the God of the Old Testament.

Please elaborate. Your wisdom so far has been express and, well, dizzying.

138 posted on 08/16/2007 7:21:31 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: DanielLongo

Where is it commanded by God for anyone in the OT to take muliple wives?


139 posted on 08/16/2007 7:41:29 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: DanielLongo

When confronted with facts some lash out.

Oh well.....


140 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:06 PM PDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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