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To: occamrzr06
An M-48 most likely could have torn a T-80 up, an M-60 definitely, M-1 no contest.

Only later varients of the M-60 had a stabilized gun allowing "shoot on the move", and it was only effective at fairly low speeds. I don't think true night vision sights came out until the M1 Abrams. The M48 would have been meat on the table for a T80 in most tactical situations.

If the M60 were still a viable system, the Marines would probably still be using them -- they aren't. The Marines use their tanks somewhat differently than the Army & the M1 design reflects that. Slowly the M1 is getting things, like a telephone that allows a dismount to converse with the tank commander, a diesel generator that allows the tanks systems to be powered without the gas turbine enging engaged, etc.

19 posted on 08/16/2007 6:16:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Tallguy; sukhoi-30mki

OK, maybe not an M-48, but the M-60A3 could. I’m Artillery, not a DAT, or a CDAT.

As Stalin said, quantity has a quality all its own.

Tankers I know wish the M-1 had a trap door in the bottom, like the M-60, to relieve themselves.

sukhoi, the South Koreans don’t have any T model tanks, but I knew what you meant.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 9:07:32 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (Artillery don't kill tanks, tanks Kill tanks!)
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To: Tallguy
True enough. The M-60’s thermal sight is actually better than that on the M1/M1IP/M1A1 tank. It is absolutely devastating in a defensive role...as many of us M1A1 crews discovered during force on force exercises against them.

Regards,

32 posted on 08/18/2007 5:12:28 PM PDT by Thunder 6
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