[JasonC]

Ever? FDR, Truman, JFK? I'd say they once did, yeah, but they abandoned it a long time ago. Clinton went about half way back (Rubin, welfare reform and a balanced budget, dragged to the last two of course) and was nationally viable because of it. He also was not a complete wimp on national security, though not talented. The present crop are all to his left, and his wife is the least leftist among them (which is saying something).

[driftless2]

"clinton"

You've got Bill pegged right. He was always more of an opportunist than an ideologue willing to say or do anything that would put him in the oval office. Hillary is another matter. While just as power-hungry she actually believes all the bilge the leftist propaganda machine vomits out.