Posted on 08/14/2007 12:10:54 PM PDT by neverdem
NRA<---If they are supporting it, they are stupid.
I recently got a call from the NRA, after spending several minutes explaining the dangers to the NRA caller, I said don't call me again.
I've always wanted a forever, but I hear they're pretty rare.
forevers pack a heavy punch.. receiving-ends usually don’t get up again... forever!
I can feel some Dirty Harry one-liners coming on...
"-- You can dress up a pig, but you can't make it sing." Likewise, efforts to paint the McCarthy/ Schumer gun control bill as anything other than an anti-gun travesty are going to be just as unsuccessful
There are a lot of (intentional) tricks in this bill. But there are two important things to remember:
* First, for the first time, this bill would statutorily impose a lifetime gun ban on battle-scarred veterans, troubled teens, and ailing seniors -- based solely on the diagnosis of a psychologist, as opposed to a finding by a court.
* Second, at the sole discretion of BATFE and the FBI, this bill would compile the largest mega-list of personal information on Americans in existence -- particularly medical and psychological records. But information on the mega-list could not be used to battle terrorism and crime… only to bar Americans from owning guns. And, incidentally, it's the medical records themselves, not just a list of names, that would turned over under section 102 (b) (1) (C) (iv).
And while the worst aspects of a newly enacted law are not always immediately apparent -- it took 32 years for 922 (g) to be used against veterans -- they will eventually come back to haunt us. And, by then, it will be too late to do anything about it.
Ping for an article written by a local. What’s his FR screen-name, anyway?
I guess if someone is ever feeling nuts, he may not see a doctor for medication lest he loose his gun rights.
I’ll say it now..........every veteran will be forced to take a psychological exam and be denied the ability to purchase a firearm pretty much based on service and the potential for PTSD, regardless if they served in Combat or Peacetime.......this bill will disarm every person who ever served in the armed forces. Too many loops holes, too many “trust us” we know the meaning or the intent etc etc .......
If the NRA/GOA etc agrees with anything that seditious POS McCarthy puts forth they betray every gun owner and member of their association.
If the NRA/GOA etc has done this I am officially done with em........I haven’t the time or money to fight against “and” fund unconstitutional efforts by socialist to promote gun control !
Damn !
Most people who shouldn't have guns eliminate themselves from "walking around in public" long before they use a gun to commit a crime. Our system manages to jail/institutionalize them for other more minor infractions.
Once in a while a madman like the Virgina Tech killer beats our system, -- making it obvious, -- that this is why everyone in system should be armed [as per the 2nd].
Being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to own and carry arms shall not be infringed for "health and safety measures".
(c) STANDARD FOR ADJUDICATIONS, COMMITMENTS, 21 AND DETERMINATIONS RELATED TO MENTAL 22 HEALTH.—23 (1) IN GENERAL.—No department or agency of 24
the Federal Government may provide to the Attor-25
ney General any record of an adjudication or deter-1
mination related to the mental health of a person, 2
or any commitment of a person to a mental institu-3
tion if—4
(A) the adjudication, determination, or 5
commitment, respectively, has been set aside or 6
expunged, or the person has otherwise been 7
fully released or discharged from all mandatory 8
treatment, supervision, or monitoring; 9
(B) the person has been found by a court, 10
board, commission, or other lawful authority to 11
no longer suffer from the mental health condi-12
tion that was the basis of the adjudication, de-13
termination, or commitment, respectively, or 14
has otherwise been found to be rehabilitated 15
through any procedure available under law; or 16
(C) the adjudication, determination, or 17
commitment, respectively, is based solely on a 18
medical finding of disability, without a finding 19
that the person is a danger to himself or to oth-20
ers or that the person lacks the mental capacity 21
to manage his own affairs. 22
If that comes to pass, it’s time.
I can almost guarantee that right after this travesty is signed into law, Schumer and McCarthy will jump in front of the cameras, BSEG from ear to ear, as they proclaim it "A Good First Step" (which has been said before about other laws, which, PRIOR to passage, were billed as something "no reasonable person could object to", and characterized as the be-all/end-all.
Funny, isn't it, how something presented as the end of the line, ends up being the point of departure.
When will we learn? When we're living like the poor bastards in Merrie England, instructed to obey the criminals (hell, we're ALREADY instructed to do that -- Fox "News" had a topcop on the other day, discussing, IIR< some situation in which an armed homeowner had successfully defended himself), insisting that the RIGHT thing do to was to meekly obey the criminal.
But that's just the foundation. The main thing will be that there'll be serious penalties for those who refuse to "obey the criminal."
Look at England, and think of it as a beta site for ultimate implementation of the program here. That seems to be the rule, for everything from health "care" to Total Surveilance Society.
*ping*
Ditto that, good points.....I think Brady is back in committee already....I could be wrong on that but they are in full BS ger er done mode.......
Doom on em !!
Just go ahead and say it,”We will all become criminals, armed criminals at that.”
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