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Analysis: Rove Helped Make, Break Bush (AP - Ron Fournier)
cbs news ^ | 8/13/07 | Ron Fournier - ap

Posted on 08/13/2007 6:15:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

(AP) Karl Rove deserves as much credit for spoiling George W. Bush's presidency as he does for creating it _ which is to say he had a lot to do with both.

The strategist's political genius helped make Bush president.

His arrogance helped make Bush a lame duck.

"Rove is the model for all future presidential advisers _ disciplined, smart and personally tight with the commander in chief. With that power comes all of the negative baggage when policy and governing failures erupt out of control," said Republican consultant Scott Reed. "He has kept remarkably cool as the GOP has spiraled out of control the last 10 months."

Reed was pointing to the 2006 midterm elections that cost Republicans control of Congress and destroyed any chance that Rove would achieve his driving ambition _ create a governing coalition that would outlast the Bush presidency.

That goal was on Rove's horizon in 2000, when he helped Bush overcome long odds to defeat a sitting vice president. Democrat Al Gore won the popular vote, but Bush won Florida and the majority of the electoral votes when the Supreme Court voted 5-4 to end the state's recount.

In the first summer of the presidency, Rove's polling showed that Bush was adrift politically _ that is until the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks galvanized the nation. It was Rove's idea to use 9/11 to sharpen the differences between Republicans and Democrats on national security, a hard-knuckled strategy that helped Republican gain seats in the 2002 elections despite a history of midterm losses by a president's party.

Rove stuck to his script in the 2004 re-election campaign, using the latest technologies to target and communicate with Republican-leaning voters who might otherwise stay home on Election Day or consider backing Democrats.

Bush, a disciplined candidate with a clear vision for his presidency, defeated Democrat John Kerry, a weak candidate with a fractious campaign.

In the days after the 2004 election, Rove laid claim to a durable Republican majority _ comparing the Bush-Kerry race to the elections of 1800, 1860, 1896 and 1932 when presidents leading during eras of great transition created new, lasting coalitions. Rove hoped to use Bush's policies on education, immigration, health care and Social Security to draw traditionally Democratic voters into the Republican fold.

Having already persuaded Congress to approve new education standards and expand the availability of health-savings accounts, Bush heeded Rove's advice and gambled second-term political capital on a plan to partially privatize Social Security.

It was a hugely unpopular idea that Rove kept pushing despite objections from Republicans in Congress _ a fierce display of the with-us-or-against-us mentality that the White House habitually deployed against friends and foes alike.

The fight over Social Security sapped Bush's political strength at a time when voters were growing sour on the Iraq war.

By now, Rove was both chief political strategist and deputy White House chief of staff in charge of both policy and politics, perhaps the most powerful White House aide ever.

"The problem for Karl was the art of campaigning required different talents than the art of governing," said Ken Duberstein, a Republican strategist who was President Reagan's last chief of staff.

"In the art of campaigning, it fundamentally has to do with defeating your opponent. The art of governing means you have to hold your opponent closely and continue to cultivate him or her for the next vote and the next vote and the next vote."

That was never Rove's style. His combative nature no doubt influenced what may have been Bush's biggest mistake _ using 9/11 to divide Democrats and Republicans rather than uniting the public behind a grand cause or shared sacrifice.

Rove's bullishness also guided his reaction to criticism leveled at Bush in the immediate aftermath of Hurrican Katrina in 2005. Rather than admit that the response was slow, Rove defended the federal government in dozens of e-mails fired off to lawmakers, fellow Republicans and journalists. "Get your ... down here and check it out yourself," read one, but with the vulgarity not deleted.

Younger aides fought against Rove to persuade Bush to accept more responsibility for Katrina and acknowledge obvious setbacks in Iraq. Bush's stubborn refusal undermined his credibility, which had been the core of his popularity.

Rove's own word came into doubt when a White House spokesman, after checking with him, denied that the strategist was involved in the leak of a CIA agent's identity. Turned out, Rove was one of the leakers.

Those who know him call Rove a great friend and family man who favors quiet acts of kindness over self-promotion _ a decent guy demonized by political enemies who, in many cases, had been demonized by Rove.

He was the perfect strategist for an imperfect era, when polarization and the pursuit of power often trumps common sense and decency.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: analysis; bush; fournier; karlrove; rove; rovelegacy
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To: Prokopton
From what I recall, from reading bits and pieces here and there, Rove always had a real contempt and callousness towards the conservative base -- the pro-lifers, pro-Constitution crowd, the anti-illegal immigration crowd. He basically took the attitude of, "Where else are they going to go?" and dropped crap on them during Bush's presidency. So I would imagine that he, and Bush, were never surprised at the vocal opposition, at least, not that there were opponents within conservative ranks.

Course, on second thought, maybe he was surprised that the GOP base, which for so many years has nodded in unison, saying "Yes, we believe you, that's rain coming down on our heads" -- which it's actually a stream of you-know-what from the White House -- finally had enough and said "No Mas, President Jorge!"

21 posted on 08/13/2007 7:40:33 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: NormsRevenge
"Analysis:
Rove Helped Make, Break Bush (AP..)"

Rove may have "helped make" Bush,
but Bush broke himself!

22 posted on 08/13/2007 7:40:59 PM PDT by norton
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To: NormsRevenge

When a guy wins the Presidency he and his advisors are geniuses,when their Party loses the majority in mid-term elections they’re idiots.Rove was an advisor to George Bush like Dick Morris once was to Bill Clinton,no more, no less.At the end of the day as a sign on Harry Truman’s desk in the Oval Office said, “The buck stops here”, and how the political landscape plays out is the President’s call,not his advisors !!!


23 posted on 08/13/2007 7:44:34 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: norton

Bush isn’t broken. He has won every battle with Pelosi and Reid. Coming up is vetos on spending. Stay tuned.


24 posted on 08/13/2007 7:47:27 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rove was the strategist behind the failure to prevent illegal aliens from entry, I was told by a local GOP pol. Arrogantly, the WH failed to address the matter because they hoped to get corporate donations based on cheap labor. Therefor I doubt that the promised reforms will be implemented.

If Rove appears in another candidate’s campaign, then you know the candidate will continue Bush’s loosing policies and is doomed to defeat (HOPEFULLY).


25 posted on 08/13/2007 7:51:36 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Mumbles

I think you and the pollster are WRONG. Maybe Rove agreed with the shamnesty bill but he wasn’t the engine that made it go. That engine would be GW BUSH !!!


26 posted on 08/13/2007 7:57:31 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan

Yes, BUSH drove the train, but ROVE masterminded it.


27 posted on 08/13/2007 8:00:40 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Obie Wan

Let me correct the statement. The “pol” was a local politician, endorsed by the GOP, running for office whom I know personally - not a “pollster” How would a pollster come to that knowledge from asking dorks on the street?


28 posted on 08/13/2007 8:03:10 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: ClaireSolt
"He has won every battle with Pelosi and Reid"

Bush won "comprehensive immigration"?..
????

Don't attribute any demise of the left to GWB - he's had too long to do it and he has failed to do it - assuming he wanted to do it - Pelosi and Reid are just as capable of scuttling themselves as Jorge is.

29 posted on 08/13/2007 8:09:32 PM PDT by norton
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To: Mumbles

A “local” politician,like who? your dog catcher? Yeah I’m sure he’d have a real inside track on nat’l politics huh ???


30 posted on 08/13/2007 8:11:57 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: norton

What? are you deliberately trying to be too smart by half? He was on the same side as they were on immigration.


31 posted on 08/13/2007 8:32:48 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Obie Wan

You smell like you have an ulterior motive...


32 posted on 08/13/2007 8:33:22 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Mumbles

Whatever,have a nice night !!!


33 posted on 08/13/2007 8:37:23 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: samtheman
"He's a good guy, but he has a problem with the letter 'C'. He focused too much on making Coalition, and too little on being Conservative."

Also none of Constitutionality.

34 posted on 08/13/2007 8:38:43 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: Prokopton

Karl Rove and La Raza:

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/07/06/karl-rove-la-raza/


35 posted on 08/13/2007 8:55:22 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: ClaireSolt
Good point, guess I'm just obsessed with winning.

I almost implied he'd got one right during the second term.

36 posted on 08/14/2007 5:43:19 AM PDT by norton
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To: Obie Wan

Obie, not to get you nuts, but after our exchange, an article came out. Ref: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/fbe0b986-4a8d-11dc-95b5-0000779fd2ac.html
How Karl Rove lost a generation of Republicans
By James Carville

The article is up on DRUDGE as of now. Although CARVILLE is a Dem strategist, he gives ROVE a lot of credit, including the illegal alien program. Not all negatives, although Carville has a point to make for the Dims.


37 posted on 08/15/2007 5:01:46 AM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: NormsRevenge

GWB aint broken, and in fact is looking to be in a fairly good position these days.

(if he would just stay the heck off immigration reform)


38 posted on 08/15/2007 5:09:09 AM PDT by Edit35
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