Posted on 08/13/2007 5:45:06 PM PDT by lancer256
The much ballyhooed debate on "Meet the Press" between former Congressman Harold Ford Jr. and Markos Moulitsas, publisher of the liberal Daily Kos website, was instructive for what it revealed about both the divisions in the Democratic Party and the underlying disingenuousness of both factions.
Ford was defending the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), an organization that holds itself out as centrist, urges the Democratic Party to move in that direction, and proudly claims former President Bill Clinton as its most honored member. Moulitsas was there to represent the more leftist wing of the party, which has used his website to increase its influence.
Ford sounded reasonable on the surface, touting the successes of the Clinton record and attributing those to DLC ideas. But in the end, Ford's message was garbled.
He said that to win national elections "you have to cross three hurdles." You must prove your "strength and trustworthiness on national security," that your values are in line with mainstream America and that you are trustworthy on "taxes, economic and fiscal policy."
So far so good. But how does that differ from the Republican platform? How does it square with what any national Democratic officeholders, save Sen. Joseph Lieberman, advocate?
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Harold Ford Jr. is dangerously stupid
and Markos Moulitsas is just dangerous.
But, he's clean and articulate, doncha know?
But I suppose these things are relative.
And compared with the frenzied Markos Moulitsas, Harold Ford Jr. almost comes off as the voice of sweet reason.
Although my impression of Ford is that he is just about as sincere in his "centrism" as that far more famous DLC member, Bill Clinton.
What struck me was the constant interruptions, changes of direction, ignored questions, answers with no relation to the question, and an overall jittery pace.
There was little information conveyed.
Harold Ford wants Democrats to lie and pretend that they are not communists.
KOS thinks it's better for them to tell the truth.
Just remember that almost all of the Dems. candidates went to kneel at the altar of Daily Kos and kiss Markos’ ring. Whether it’s Hillary or another candidate for pres. on the Dem. side, it’s likely he/she has made a deal with the devil in the person of Markos Moulitsas(SP?).
Those bloggers are so proud of their impacts on elections, and they did purge Joe Lieberman and may have helped push Dems. over the finish line in some close races in ‘06. The good news is that these guys are waaayyyy too liberal/radical for middle America. I doubt they can have that same influence in the presidential election.
Centrist! I must be going to the wrong site or there's been a bigger political shift left than I imagined.
They describe themselves as "New Democrat Third Way progressives." They support global free trade but with "rules." Their rules. They want 20th Century liberalism to be dumped. They want a new social contract, for all the world.
They acknowledge that it takes a free markets to create wealth -- but "social justice" rules.
It's a Marxist revolution from the top down. That's what it is. IMO.
Maybe the dailycuss guy is a 1960s wannabe "Bring it all down, man!" guy and the DLC wants a people's republic for America.
Kos is just like Perez Hilton- all hype and self-promotion, no intelligence and substance.
Both believe they are god.
It says it all about Dems that are taking to calling themselves progressives rather than liberal. Why should they shun the lib tag? It makes no sense, because that’s exactly what most of them are. No Republican shies away from calling themselves conservatives. In taking the progressive appellation the libs are tacitly calling themselves socialists because that is what the far-leftists like to describe themselves as. I know Dems definitely don’t want to call themselve socialists, but they are all heading in that direction at a breakneck pace.
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