Posted on 08/13/2007 1:35:22 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
A few blocks from the Newark schoolyard where the killings had been carried out, Gloria Gomez sat on her porch in the fading afternoon light, hardship etched on her careworn face, and tears welled in her eyes as she spoke of her two fugitive sons...
“I raised them honestly, through my hard work,” the 45-year-old mother said in Spanish, remembering 20 years of cleaning other people’s houses, of abandonment by two husbands and of life as an immigrant...
Ms. Gomez’s sons — Rodolfo Godinez, 24, and his 16-year-old half brother — were still being sought by the police yesterday in the close-range shootings that killed three young people and wounded a fourth at a playground at the Mount Vernon School on Aug. 4...Three people have been arrested in the shootings: Jose Lachira Carranza, 28, and two teenagers...authorities were seeking a sixth person...
Ms. Gomez indicated that she was only vaguely aware that her older son had been in trouble with the law. According to Essex County records, Mr. Godinez was arrested in 2003 and sentenced to 18 months’ probation and fined for theft. He was also placed on probation for theft when he was 16, according to a law enforcement official...He became a legal permanent resident of the United States in 2001...
Recalling her family odyssey, Ms. Gomez said she immigrated alone from Nicaragua in 1987 to escape poverty and war. She traveled through Mexico, settled in Newark and got cleaning work... Later, she married her younger son’s father, who also abandoned her and became a drug addict...
The teenager’s page on the MySpace social-networking Web site has references to MS-13...along with a picture of him wearing a bandanna over the lower half of his face...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
You have a funny way of defining "garbage." But garbage is as garbage does -- and your post seems to indicate that you know garbage first hand.
Perhaps you should try to answer it instead: do you assume she's an illegal? And if so, on what basis do you make your claim?
Who can blame them? The media tries very hard to mislead about the legal/illegal status of people. They have an agenda and they push it, facts be damned.
Could she have been made legal in Reagan’s amnesty? I can’t off the top of my head remember the date of that.
susie
So one of the criminals is an illegal alien and the other is an anchor baby?
How much do you want to bet that her green card stems from the 16-year-old anchor baby/MS-13 member?
LOL! Yeah, like the FR "assume illegality" choir doesn't match that description to a T.
Who can blame them?
I can blame them, and I do. For all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the MSM failing to look at facts, some FReepers seem awfully willing to dispense with facts as well, when it suits their agenda to do so. This thread appears to be one such case: what facts we do have seem to support the fact that she's here legally. For example, she apparently successfully went through Customs when she returned from Nicaragua -- which is an indication that her papers were at least in order.
Could she have been made legal in Reagan’s amnesty? I can’t off the top of my head remember the date of that.
Reagan signed the immigration reform bill in 1986. However, Ms. Gomez hails from Nicaragua, and at the time she left there she was automatically eligible for political asylum in the US, so I don't think the '86 amnesty had much to do with her status.
Just heard that the cretin adult son was caught.
You seem kinda angry. I recommend a nice latte with a shot of bourbon.
susie
LOL! I’m not naive — I simply prefer base my comments on facts rather than personal biases. The only facts available from this story, seem to suggest that she’s legal.
No, not angry. Really disgusted, yes. Pitying of those who suffer from FR immigration lemming complex, yes. But not angry.
Hadn’t thought of that.
Truthfully, when the media doesn’t explicitly state that an immigrant is here legally, I assume they are not. This may make some people angry, but it’s the result of a media that tries to hide the truth to push their agenda.
susie
If it bothers you, perhaps along with the latte you might avoid threads like this. Just a thought. It might do your blood pressure good.
susie
Cute, susie. But not very impressive. Do YOU have any factual basis for assuming she’s illegal?
Classic! Thanks for posting! lol
Whether she is legal or not remains to be seen. As to that funny way of defining garbage, what’s funny about it? Behavior tells what we need to know; thoughts and even words are often God’s business to interpret, but behavior is our business, and we are fit to judge on that basis.
As the article is murky on that topic I can only glean as you did. She came here in 1987, thru Mexico. This is typical for illegal aliens, so that could lead one to believe she was one at least when she came over. She brought her 4 year old son, who did not become a legal permanent resident until 2001. I’m not positive what that means, but it sounds like he was not legally here. If she was, why wasn’t he?
At any rate, I never made any definitive statement about her status, so I’m not sure why you chose me to address. Maybe because everyone else is ignoring you.
susie
First generation works incredibly hard, trying to make a better life for their families. Much of the second generation feels entitled to a good life without the hard work. We are heading for some really difficult times.
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