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Do liberals raise their kids this way?
Human Events Online ^ | August 13, 2007 | Katie O'Malley

Posted on 08/13/2007 6:03:35 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich

As the immigration debate rages and becomes increasingly polarized, I can not help but wonder if liberals parent their children with the same consequence-free approach they would like our society to take in confronting illegal immigration.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: children; illegalimmigration; immigration; liberals; morristown; raisingchildren; values
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To: Thinkin' Gal
when the real culprits are the elephants in the room, the disfunctional parents.

I agree, let's treat the parents in most cases.

61 posted on 08/13/2007 8:12:14 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
SOMEBODY ( and it is NOT ONLY "Liberal Parents!) are allowing their children to MARCH & PROTEST along side those favoring Open Boarders-and Letting the Illegals Stay!

"SOMEBODY"-and it's NOT Only the Liberals-are NOT asking questions-finding out what their High School/professors are saying about ILLEGALS :TEACHING Their children while they are in SCHOOL that, " It's Okay!! They are only here for Jobs.."

"Somebody"-Your Neighbor-Children's SCHOOL-YOUR Local BANK!- the Businesses YOU and THEM go to - knowing HAVE BEEN Using Illegals to work for them for years too!

BLAME YOUR DOCTORS, DENTISTS along with their LAWYERS-who do NOT "Question" their Financial Advisors who are the ones KNOWINGLY Giving the "Start-Up Monies" for the Businesses that Mainly Use ILLEGALS!!

I walked into my bank's Manager and said-"I am PULLING MY ACCOUNTS from your bank BECAUSE I had written your BANK'S MANAGER to tell them they are using a COMPANY that Knowing HIRES ILLEGALS to do their lawn work on their bank's Property..and they wrote me back saying (in other words) -SORRY to see you go-at least you got a Free Toaster while you were with us-We will MISS your Business....NOT!"

As with ALL Issues -Illegals, Drugs, Crime- "WE" are our own worst enemies. Unless you are like most Conservatives that DO Write Letters! and DO go to Rallies & Marches!

I am curious now to see HOW MANY out there show up in DC this Sept 15th now!

62 posted on 08/14/2007 6:23:26 AM PDT by AirBorn
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To: AirBorn

I was there in March and May and am trying very hard to get there in September as well.

In Morristown, the town mentioned in the article, there was an anti-amnesty rally a few weeks back. Two of the demonstrators were attacked by all illegal all the time folks and were beaten and their car was damaged.

Ah the lovers of peace


63 posted on 08/14/2007 11:23:32 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Gathering of Eagles....its our turn.....)
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To: Just mythoughts
...many that I have met in the homeschooling world do it because of their religious convictions of not wanting their children to be in the world.

Not wanting one's children in the world is not the same as thinking that one is too good for others. Or am I misunderstanding you? I don't know about you, but my children don't come out of the womb knowing right from wrong and having the ability to stand up for what is right. And putting them right smack dab in the middle of people who aren't acting as they should, isn't always the best way to teach those skills. Many children, when immersed in negative behavior, will pick it right up. Why? Because they are young and very impressionable. So, if a parent wants to take time (outside of the "world") to teach his or her child how to do what is right when others are doing wrong, what is the problem with that? If the parents teach this for 18 years by controlling who the child hangs out with, so what? Does this mean that the parent thinks his family is too good for the rest of the "world"? I don't think so. It just means that the parent is choosing a different way of teaching how to do what's right when others are doing wrong than the parent who sends his child off to school to learn those things there.

A little bit about me...I have homeschooled all four of my children for the last 16 years. My oldest will be graduating from college this year and my second oldest is headed off to college to be a freshman. I've got two more still at home.

If I'm still misunderstanding what you said about some homeschoolers thinking they're too good for others just because they don't want their children negatively influenced in school, then please forgive me.

64 posted on 08/14/2007 6:08:44 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: Just mythoughts
...many that I have met in the homeschooling world do it because of their religious convictions of not wanting their children to be in the world.

Not wanting one's children in the world is not the same as thinking that one is too good for others. Or am I misunderstanding you? I don't know about you, but my children don't come out of the womb knowing right from wrong and having the ability to stand up for what is right. And putting them right smack dab in the middle of people who aren't acting as they should, isn't always the best way to teach those skills. Many children, when immersed in negative behavior, will pick it right up. Why? Because they are young and very impressionable. So, if a parent wants to take time (outside of the "world") to teach his or her child how to do what is right when others are doing wrong, what is the problem with that? If the parents teach this for 18 years by controlling who the child hangs out with, so what? Does this mean that the parent thinks his family is too good for the rest of the "world"? I don't think so. It just means that the parent is choosing a different way of teaching how to do what's right when others are doing wrong than the parent who sends his child off to school to learn those things there.

A little bit about me...I have homeschooled all four of my children for the last 16 years. My oldest will be graduating from college this year and my second oldest is headed off to college to be a freshman. I've got two more still at home.

If I'm still misunderstanding what you said about some homeschoolers thinking they're too good for others just because they don't want their children negatively influenced in school, then please forgive me.

65 posted on 08/14/2007 6:11:04 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Out of curiosity, what’s so liberal about a cooking cruise?


66 posted on 08/14/2007 6:28:08 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Not wanting one's children in the world is not the same as thinking that one is too good for others. Or am I misunderstanding you? I don't know about you, but my children don't come out of the womb knowing right from wrong and having the ability to stand up for what is right. And putting them right smack dab in the middle of people who aren't acting as they should, isn't always the best way to teach those skills. Many children, when immersed in negative behavior, will pick it right up. Why? Because they are young and very impressionable. So, if a parent wants to take time (outside of the "world") to teach his or her child how to do what is right when others are doing wrong, what is the problem with that? If the parents teach this for 18 years by controlling who the child hangs out with, so what? Does this mean that the parent thinks his family is too good for the rest of the "world"? I don't think so. It just means that the parent is choosing a different way of teaching how to do what's right when others are doing wrong than the parent who sends his child off to school to learn those things there.

I am not sure you are misunderstanding me. I do not have intent to impugn homeschooling. I think parents have the right to choose the method of educating their children. They know the children's specific needs better than anyone.

I do know personally some who do homeschool simply because their religious convictions tell them that is the method to keep their children from being exposed to the worldly life. I do literally mean a total and complete shielding, say like visiting at friends/relatives home and there is a television on and a big production is made over that 'sin'. I do not object, that is their choice. However, completely shielding a child to what is literally in this world can be just as harmful when their innocence gets destroyed and they have not developed their own personal coping skills to not get lost in this world. So no I am not advocating an immersion and full blown exposure of the worldly ways for any child at any age. Unfortunately too much of the worldly ways are on display at every turn and cannot be ignored as though it does not exist.

I raised my children with the idea that they were responsible for learning and using their God-given abilities to the best of their ability.... My oldest is going on 26, has a good job, my middle one at 22, is starting second year of grad school in a PhD program.... my concern with that is what kind of jobs are available in his area of research. My youngest is not sure yet at 19 what to be or do, so, I have not yet completed my responsibility as a parent.

67 posted on 08/14/2007 7:16:03 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Melas
Out of curiosity, what’s so liberal about a cooking cruise?

Nothing. It was just over-editing on my part.

68 posted on 08/14/2007 8:44:41 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Just mythoughts
I think I understand where you're coming from now. And I agree with you that each person is entitled to do what he or she wants.

My children are not the "sheltered" type in the way that you're describing. I don't know of anyone like you describe, but I do hear people talk about those people a lot. :-) My children hang out with kids from public school (and private school) and they get jobs when they're 14 or 15. They also take college classes in high school. But, I'm happy to wait until the teen years to send them off into the "world." They've done fine so far and I expect them to continue to do well. I do think that if some of my children had gone to public school during their elementary years that they would not have been able to go against the crowd. They weren't the kind of kids who were strong enough for that. I have others that would have done fine, but why mess with a good thing? :-)

I've appreciated the civil "back-and-forth" and I think I understand you now.

Candi

69 posted on 08/15/2007 7:37:18 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (Is it OK to steal tag lines from tee-shirts and bumper stickers?)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
I've appreciated the civil "back-and-forth" and I think I understand you now.

You are most welcome, one of my weakest points, -- being able to say what I am trying to say without sounding uncivil.

70 posted on 08/15/2007 8:14:22 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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