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To: Delacon

It’s surprising how conservative “blue states” like mine become when things are left to the people of the states.

Here in Michigan we have concealed carry with lots of no retreat talk. We opposed gay marraige by a wide margin and got rid of affirmative action in government funded schools and agencies.


4 posted on 08/12/2007 5:58:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek; wagglebee
That's Michigan. How, short of federal action against abhortion after Roe vs. Wade is done away with, will we avoid turning NYC, LA and Chicago into the abortion mills of the nation. If the SCOTUS had not shoved abortion down the throats of the entire nation, there would not have been a culture of death permeating the entire nation. Now, only a national solution will stop abortion.

There is a constitutional solution to this mess. Regard each chld conceived as a "person" under the Equal Protecton of Laws provision of the 14th Amendment and every state will be REQUIRED to behave accordingly and protect that child from homicide just as it does those children already born. We already have state statutes (upheld by fedcourts) that make the killing of an unborn child by a party lacking the mother's consent a criminal homicide. The mother's consent or withdrawal thereof does not make the unborn child a person or not a person. Protect each unborn child in every case where there is not a credible imminent physical threat to the literal life of the mother. "If I can't get an abortion, I will kill myself" is NOT such a threat.

51 posted on 08/13/2007 5:36:30 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: cripplecreek

I have a theory about the blue states that vote conservative locally. This theory works with liberal cities that vote for Republican mayors as well.

I call it “liberalization by distance”. It’s along the same lines as the psychological effect of a person who would act to help another alone, but would not when they are one in a crowd. If there is even the idea that there are a lot of people closer to a particular problem, then the individual is more likely to believe someone else should take care of it. This is the heart of liberalism politically. It takes a leader personality to have a conservative philosophy in the face of this psychology.


61 posted on 08/13/2007 11:25:11 AM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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