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One Last Thing | Finessing the Democratic center
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Aug. 12, 2007 | Jonathan Last

Posted on 08/12/2007 2:52:07 PM PDT by neverdem

A first-tier presidential candidate was the keynote speaker at a recent trade association convention held just outside Washington.

The candidate began the evening by telling the crowd: "His eye is on the sparrow, we know that. . . . And we are here tonight to give praise and thanks to He who made it possible for us to be with each other this evening."

The candidate spent a lot of time talking about the importance of hard work and personal responsibility, quoting another thinker's motto: "If I've accomplished anything in life, it is because I've been willing to work hard."

The candidate also spoke out against partisanship, saying: "It is time for us to come together again, to reach across the divides."

Later, the candidate talked about the responsibility of the nation to children: "When that little child was brought into this world, there was the spark of God in his eye . . . and what it is our job to do as members of the village is keep that spark alive."

Guess who the candidate was. Nope, not Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney. Not even Sam Brownback. Perhaps you can imagine the outrage some on the left might muster if one of those nasty theocrats used such language. No, the candidate was Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and she was speaking to the National Beauty Culturists League.

Her speech was further evidence of Sen. Clinton's move toward the political center. She is now the most conservative Democrat running for president. Next to Joe Lieberman and Dick Gephardt, she might be the most conservative Democrat to run for president since Bill Clinton left office.

All of which has left the senator with a small dilemma during this early phase of the primary process. She is, by Democratic standards, reasonably conservative. But until votes are cast, the primary process tends to be dominated by out-of-the-mainstream interests who do not necessarily reflect the leanings of the main body of the party. Recall that in 2004, until a few hours before the residents of Iowa were allowed to speak, Howard Dean was lapping the Democratic field.

So what is Clinton going to do? Her speech to the NBCL might offer some clues. In turning to Iraq, the senator opened with an unequivocal statement: "We have a lot of work to do around the world, starting with bringing our troops home from Iraq." It was her biggest applause line of the night.

But almost as soon as those words passed her lips, she began clarifying the remark. First, she noted that "we have to get our men and women out of their civil war."

Next, Sen. Clinton attempted to locate blame for the situation in Iraq. Praising the troops, she said: "We are not only proud of them, but we understand that they achieved what they were sent to do. They were asked to get rid of Saddam Hussein, and they did. They were asked to give the Iraqis free and fair elections, and they did. They were asked to give the Iraqi government the space and time to make the decisions that only they could make for their future, and they did. It is time for the Iraqis to take responsibility and for us to bring our troops home as soon as possible."

Finally, she proclaimed that "if the president does not end this war before he leaves office, when I'm president, I will." Again, this was met with huge applause.

Clearly, Democrats feel strongly about Iraq. What, exactly, they feel is a different matter. Depending on the day, it seems to run anywhere from wishing for immediate withdrawal to actually hoping for America's defeat. (Democratic House Whip James Clyburn recently said that good news from Iraq would be "a real big problem for us.") Sen. Clinton was able to tap into that anger in her speech.

But if you parse her words carefully, you get the sense that she may not mean what her audience might have thought.

After all, if there were no Iraqi civil war - because, let's say, the Baghdad Security Plan worked - then might not U.S. troops stay in Iraq as needed? The qualifier "as soon as possible" is the type of wiggle phrase that maddens those on the antiwar left who want immediate withdrawal. Even in her statement about ending the war on her watch, Sen. Clinton leaves open the possibility that she would prosecute the war to victory, not merely that she would turn tail and run.

In their anger with the president, some Democrats seem to have forgotten that it would be the United States, not just George W. Bush, that loses if our country fails in Iraq. That is the bedrock truth, and it exists independent of questions about how wise the war was and how competent a commander President Bush has been.

But many Democrats do understand this basic truth - as evidenced by John Kerry's trouncing of Howard Dean. Hillary Clinton seems to understand that as well. And history suggests that her message will be well-received by the main body of Democratic voters.

In the meantime, however, she may be trying to fool the party's base into thinking she's more irresponsible than she actually is.

Contact Jonathan V. Last at jlast@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dlc; hillary; hillaryclinton; hillaryrodhamclinton; iraq; moderates
At a gay-issues forum, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton reacts. She is now the most conservative Democrat running for president, which leaves her with a dilemma in the primary process.

Conservative? Hah! That was the caption to a ROBYN BECK / AFP / Getty Images pic with the story. We can't post Getty Images' pics.

1 posted on 08/12/2007 2:52:09 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Later, the candidate talked about the responsibility of the nation to children: "When that little child was brought into this world, there was the spark of God in his eye . . . and what it is our job to do as members of the village is keep that spark alive."

That section after the ellipsis has to be one of the most tortured phrases I've ever come across. Imagining this being spoken in her shrill screeching voice....AHHHHHHHHHHHHGH!!!!

2 posted on 08/12/2007 3:42:50 PM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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To: neverdem
I LOVE it when the media describes a Marxist as a "conservative" Democrat! Wait til they hear that about Hillary down South. What a jive!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 08/12/2007 3:44:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I LOVE it when the media describes a Marxist as a "conservative" Democrat! Wait til they hear that about Hillary down South. What a jive!

Stalinist is probably more accurate. She has a solid dose of hard-core totalitarian, kill-you-if-you-mess-with-me mixed in with all the lefty stuff.

4 posted on 08/12/2007 4:59:17 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: neverdem

Democrats Try to Woo Homosexuals

Democratic candidates for President traveled to Los Angeles to participate in a debate on gay issues. The event, unprecedented for a presidential campaign, was sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, one of the most powerful gay lobby groups in the world.

Senator Hillary Clinton (N.Y.), Senator Barack Obama (Ill.), former senator John Edwards (N.C.) and Governor Bill Richardson (N.M.) said they favored civil unions for gays, but not “marriage” per se. Only Representative Dennis Kucinich (Ohio) and former senator Mike Gravel (Alaska) endorsed same-sex “marriage.”

“Many married heterosexuals enjoy an occasional anal penetration,” Kucinich declared. “If they can be married, why can’t homosexuals?”

Despite the audience’s enthusiastic approval of Kucinich’s position, Senator Obama declined to fully endorse gay marriage, declaring that a “civil union” ought to be sufficient. “You know, many married people wish they had a civil union,” Obama said. “Getting spouses to be civil to one another is a worthy goal. Maybe if we convert all the marriages into ‘civil unions’ people will get the idea they ought to be civil to who they live with.”

Clinton reaffirmed her opposition to gay marriage, citing her own personal experience as her rationale. “Marriage isn’t so great,” she opined. “You make promises then some bum is diddling interns behind your back. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.”

Clinton did admit that legal provisions barring spouses from testifying against one another might come in handy, but that such circumstances were rare and should not induce people to embark upon “the gut-wrenching, heartbreaking matrimonial ‘trail of tears’ unless you absolutely have to.” She told the largely homosexual audience that they should “appreciate the absence of social pressures to get married and enjoy the unfettered freedom offered by relationships that are not legally binding.”

Edwards acknowledged that his notorious primping has led to rumors that he might be gay, but insisted that he is “merely effeminate.” “I love looking good and dressing well,” Edwards said. “Many have jumped to the conclusion that this means I’m gay. But I’m not. I would consider lesbianism, but I’m not cut out for it. Still, I firmly believe in gay rights and, as president, would fight for those rights.” Edwards suggested that his comprehensive national health plan should reassure gays that “their special diseases would be fully covered.”

Edwards also took a shot at Clinton, saying her husband’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on serving in the military was “wrongheaded.” “The Spartans were gay and they are recognized as the most fearsome warriors in history,” Edwards asserted. “Why three hundred of them killed ten thousand Persians in a film earlier this year. So, I think we may be missing out by not actively recruiting gays and promoting gay relations among our troops.”

Bill Richardson, who appeared the most uncomfortable among the candidates, said he only came to the debate to demonstrate his tolerance “by spending some time in the same room with so many queers.” He confessed that he was feeling disconcerted, but said he was confident that he’d be okay “as long as I keep my pants on.”

Although they were invited, none of the Republican presidential candidates attended. Former New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani was the only one to offer a reason, saying “I couldn’t find my drag outfit.”

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http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


5 posted on 08/12/2007 5:28:28 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: John Semmens

LOL!


6 posted on 08/12/2007 5:46:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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