Posted on 08/12/2007 6:36:48 AM PDT by SittinYonder
Just listened to Duncan Hunter on FoxNews. He finished 9th with 174 votes, and he said he`s still optimistic.
I’m still listening, but Tancredo seems to be our only hope.
Fox News is just as biased as the rest. They're biased towards establishment-approved GOP candidates. Sean Hannity's reporting will only mention Rudy McRomney and Fred, I'm sure. The others don't exist for him. Sean Hannity is a whore.
>Sean Hannity is a whore.
Yeah, but he isn’t Hillary’s whore like 99.5% of the rest of the media.
That all depends upon how you define "worst." Personally, I view the moderates in your "top tier" as the worst: Fred McGiuliomney is just more of the same expansion in the size and scope of the federal government that we've had in the last three administrations.
To suggest, too, that Duncan Hunter didn't put an emphasis on Iowa as some kind of wise political strategy is just foolishness - he doesn't have the resources to have put any kind of push on in Iowa.
I like Hunter and am not inclined to trash him, but your statement was disingenuous at least:
The smart ones, who didn't spend oodles of cash on a 'popularity' contest were, Rudy, Fred, Duncan to a degree.
Hunter doesn't have "oodles of cash" to spend on anything.
Giuliani's big government doesn't play in Iowa, so he skipped it because had he shown up his votes wouldn't have been any different. He wanted to save himself the embarrassment. McCain's the same thing - big government and Amnesty kill him in Iowa.
But why didn't Fred show up? That's the real question - where was Folksy Fred, the savior of the Republican Party, the nation and the world?
He can't do anything that would put him in jeopardy of having to start living within the rules of the Campaign Finance Reform ... he helped to pass. His position is perfect - while everyone else lives within these extraordinary rules, Thompson is able to skirt around all of it by simply not declaring.
Hunter did make a good point about his votes coming from people who paid for their own trip to Iowa and paid for their own tickets.
I expected Tancredo to do well. He’s fairly well known at this point and he’s raised a surprising ammount of money. Someone like Romney can pick up lots of $2000 donations but that doesn’t translate into 2000 votes. Tancredo gets smaller donations that translate more easily into individual votes.
One interesting thing about the poll event was the fact that there were some 40,000 attendees but only around 13,000 votes cast.
Brownshirt had to cheat to get third.
“Hunter did make a good point about his votes coming from people who paid for their own trip to Iowa and paid for their own tickets.”
True.
What's funny is, scanning through posts from the last few days, Paulites were swearing a third or better place and prove that they have the real world support like they do on 'internet polls'.. hmmmm....
Tancredo/Hunter ‘08.
Seal the borders. No nonsense with the enemy.
Well put, but I may say this... this was a decent shot for people like Huckabee (who was sitting 5th in the polls behind Mitt, Fred, Rudy and McCain and ahead of Gingrich) and the other also-rans to make a statement, and it appears that at least to their supporters they have.
There has obviously been a split in the results here: those who spent money (Mitt, Brownback, Huckabee, Paul, Tancredo and Tommy) and those who didn’t (Fred, Rudy, Duncan, and McCain). People like Brownback and Tommy spent a lot of money for their 3rd and 6th place finishes, and they’ll likely pay for it. Comparing apples to apples, Tancredo’s 4th of 6 wasn’t quite so impressive although it was adequate, and Hunter’s 3rd of 5 (above McCain and very close to Rudy) shows a lot of potential if he can just get a ground campaign into gear.
The GOP should recognize that the Tancredo and Hunter voters are of a like mind and will likely unite behind whichever man lasts the longest. Combined we will make a sizable voting bloc.
If a RINO wins the nomination the democrats will take the white house. Conservatives are in a foul mood and have little to no patience for a GOP that creeps ever leftward. If that happens I won’t feel guilt for the failure of the party and no amount of intimidation or ridicule will change that.
The herd is running headlong toward a cliff and knowing that and continuing to run along with them is stupid. They’re going over the cliff anyway so it really doesn’t bother me if they call me names as they jump.
>Tancredo/Hunter ‘08.
Agreed. The rest of the field sans Thompson (don’t know him) strikes me as RINOs in waiting.
These are not just votes in a popularity contest. These are activists and potential campaign workers. The real post mortem is the intense recruitment of supporters of losing candidates to work for the winners.
Paul got nearly 10 percent, despite campaigning far less in Iowa than Huckabee, Tancredo, Hunter, Brownback, or Romeney, thus putting to rest the constant harping here that his support is “less than 1 percent.”
Er....um.....he got nearly 10 percent not "1 percent." He accomplished this feat though he campaigned far less in Iowa than any of teh candidates that came in ahead of him Try to get your facts right
On the one hand, you use the Iowa results to make your case against Paul, thus contradicting your claim that the poll was “meaningless.” On the other, though he polled 10 percent, you percent in calling him a 1 percenter. You want it both ways. If the poll was truly meaningless, then at least be consistent in how you use it.
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