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Court: Airline passengers can't back out of searches (after going thru initial security screenings)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^
| 8/11/07
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Posted on 08/11/2007 9:09:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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FRom the 9th Circuit yet.
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posted on
08/11/2007 9:10:05 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
To: NormsRevenge
This falls under the “even a broken clock is right once a day” rule.
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posted on
08/11/2007 9:15:01 PM PDT
by
OCC
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
08/11/2007 9:15:06 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
08/11/2007 9:15:10 PM PDT
by
neodad
(USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
To: NormsRevenge
Well, any reasonable person would think that that kind of behavior was suspicious.
How did the 9th circuit get one right?
Maybe it’s time to play the lottery.
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posted on
08/11/2007 9:32:53 PM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: OCC
This falls under the even a broken clock is right once a day rule. With the greatest of all due respect, unless it is an military digital clock, I think the line has to do with "TWO TIMES" a day, like 10:00 AM and 10:00 PM, unless I missed something in the translation.
Cheers!
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posted on
08/11/2007 10:30:59 PM PDT
by
jws3sticks
(Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
To: NormsRevenge
This bit of common-sense is from the 9th Circus? Let me look out the window; pigs must be flying.
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posted on
08/11/2007 10:38:39 PM PDT
by
hsalaw
To: NormsRevenge
So you start through the checkpoint and while they strip search your grandmother, you see them passing through a dozen, rough looking men wearing their towels on their heads and you think, Oh, my, if these guys try to take over the plane, I’ll be helpless to stop them and the government will help save us by shooting down the plane.
So you decide it’s a bad time to fly today.
But you can’t decide that, you are a slave.
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
So you decide its a bad time to fly today.
But you cant decide that, you are a slave.
No one’s forcing you to get on the plane after you get through inspection, but once you’ve started the inspection process, you must finish it.
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posted on
08/12/2007 1:45:54 AM PDT
by
Cheburashka
(Come over to the Dark Side. We have cookies.)
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
They are saying you can’t avoid further searches, not that you can’t decline to fly.
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posted on
08/12/2007 1:46:51 AM PDT
by
sd-joe
To: NormsRevenge
The San Francisco-based court said airline passengers sheep couldn't refuse searches once they place their belongings on an X-ray tray or walk through a metal detector. There...fixed.
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posted on
08/12/2007 3:27:25 AM PDT
by
Sarajevo
To: Sarajevo
The sheep part of it is that we fly at all, considering the state of security at airports or on flights.
To: OCC
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posted on
08/12/2007 7:31:02 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
To: Cheburashka
It is deplorable that under the circumstances we are discussing the rights of a meth-head, but that is how are civil rights are defined. Suppose my bag through the machine, it goes through without problem and then I decide not to fly and the feds decide that in itself is suspicious and so I am subjected to detention for a full body search and hours of questioning all to find me innocent.
I know - if you are innocent you have nothing to worry about. Ever here about some idiot former prosecutor named Nifong?
Whatever happened to my right as a citizen to go about my business unmolested. I may have given up some privacy rights when I walk onto a public street, but I certainly did not agree to give up all rights. The Constitution contains no, except if you are in a market, street, airport, etc. statement.
To: AndyJackson
Whatever happened to my right as a citizen to go about my business unmolested. I may have given up some privacy rights when I walk onto a public street, but I certainly did not agree to give up all rights. The Constitution contains no, except if you are in a market, street, airport, etc. statement.
An airplane is not a public street. It is owned and operated by a company, just as you own and operate your own car. The airplane owners happen not to like people who get on their airplanes and then blow the planes up, and most of their customers feel the same way. They want searches to make sure people getting on the planes don't have the means and ability to blow up the planes. The government for its own political purposes decided that they would do the security, but when you get on a plane you are not standing on a public street, and you never were, even before 9/11. And you have no right to expect to be treated as if you were. If you don't like it, you have the option to take some other means of transportation. I say this as a simple statement of fact, so don't read any sort of hostility in it towards you.
If we allow people to pick and choose how much of the security process they will undergo, it invites probes to see if the bombers can find a security weak spot, which weakens the security. I might note that this affects you even if you never fly, because if the nuts gain control of a plane they may decide to crash the plane exactly where you or someone you care about is standing.
Mr. Meth was not not interested in blowing up the plane, but he was performing an illegal act and put himself in close proximity to law enforcement people. He took his chances, he pays the price.
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posted on
08/12/2007 8:48:33 AM PDT
by
Cheburashka
(Come over to the Dark Side. We have cookies.)
To: jws3sticks; B4Ranch
With the greatest of all due respect, unless it is an military digital clock, I think the line has to do with "TWO TIMES" a day
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posted on
08/12/2007 9:44:27 AM PDT
by
OCC
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I've been thinking recently that our society would be better off if we had more Air Marshals on more flights, no security in the airports, and allowed passengers to be armed.
But I don't want Bill O'Reilly seeing that thought out loud and branding me as, whatever he needs to find a target for,
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posted on
08/12/2007 9:48:59 AM PDT
by
Bernard
(The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
To: Cheburashka
It is owned and operated by a companyYou are an idiot. When I walk into my local Safeway, I don't consent to a strip search, even if I have nothing to worry about because I am, after all, innocent.
To: NormsRevenge
One more bit of news that makes me glad I no longer fly anywhere.
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