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LOST and found (u.n. law of sea treaty)
Washington Times ^ | August 8, 2007 | Lawrence Kogan

Posted on 08/10/2007 8:11:43 AM PDT by processing please hold

The Law of the Sea Treaty, a k a "LOST," the leviathan of all U.N. regulatory and environmental treaties, has again reared its ugly head, despite having been "deep-sixed" years ago by the Reagan administration.

A legacy-oriented White House is now shepherding it through a Congress whose majority enthusiastically embraces collectivist European-style environmental activism and multilateral treaty-making — at the expense of constitutionally-protected individualism and property rights.

Is the White House merely ill-informed, or has it intentionally chosen to ignore the lessons of history? Does it not recall the past decade of highly contentious trade disputes between the United States and an environmentally-obsessed and protectionist European Union, which operates on what is known as the "precautionary principle" — "I fear, therefore I shall ban."

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To: processing please hold
These people are loony toones.

Sec. B. Reservation of Powers

The powers not delegated to the World Government by this World Constitution shall be reserved to the nations of the Federation of Earth and to the people of Earth.

I almost split a gut on that one.

And to think, the un gave this queen of wacko an environmental prize in '87.

81 posted on 08/10/2007 1:23:53 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

This is why we must remove any congressmen,senators, or presidents who are globalists, and stop electing new globalists to take their place. The next election is going to be very very important, and ever patriot needs to volunteer to poll watch and observe the vote counting.


82 posted on 08/10/2007 1:44:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: processing please hold; B4Ranch
Those opposed to LOST always say that the US doesn't have to participate in this treaty because we have world's strongest Navy.

Could either of you priortize the following straits in importance to US interests?

Hormuz, Mallacca, Formosa, Bering, Gibralter, Florida.

Additionaly can/will you priortize all the world's 180 straits?

Given all the hype about Russia's recent LOST claims in the Arctic and Canada's and Denmark's competing claims, would it be better for the US to back either of those competing claims, or would it be better for the US to try to prevent any of those nation's claims to the Arctic?

83 posted on 08/10/2007 1:51:43 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: hedgetrimmer
This is why we must remove any congressmen,senators, or presidents who are globalists, and stop electing new globalists to take their place.

I believe most of them are so deeply embedded in this country's politics, it's going to be nearly impossible to root them out.

The next election is going to be very very important, and ever patriot needs to volunteer to poll watch and observe the vote counting.

I believe this country's freedom hinges on our next election.

84 posted on 08/10/2007 1:56:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Phatboy

Richard Lugar


86 posted on 08/10/2007 2:01:33 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: processing please hold
I believe this country's freedom hinges on our next election

Only if we can remain free until the next election. The Rockerfellow Republicans are in their glory singing and dancing with the likes of Ted Kennedy. Our country is in a mess right now.

87 posted on 08/10/2007 2:05:52 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Phatboy
I'm pulling up a pdf.

S. HRG. 108–498
UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON THE LAW
OF THE SEA
HEARING
BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE ON
ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS
UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
ON
MARCH 23, 2004
Printed for the use of the Committee on Environment and
Public Works

It's 200 pages. When it's completed(I hope this year)I will look through it and see if their names are listed.

Would you like me to ping you on it?

89 posted on 08/10/2007 2:52:03 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Phatboy
This isn't from the pdf, but there are some names on it.

President Bush deserves some credit. He has announced to “small group of trusted Republican grass-roots organizers” that he is going to strongly support U.S. Senate ratification of the Law of the Sea convention. Word is that a public announcement is imminent. Once he does so we all should look to Senate Foreign Relations Committee (SFRC) Chair Joe Biden for quick action – because the ratification window is relatively small.

Bush’s public support will ensure enough votes for the treaty to pass handily on the Senate floor. Bush’s endorsement will push the numbers into the high 70’s to mid 80’s. Pretty much all Democrats are expected to support it and there are enough Republicans on board now to ratify it (including senior senators such as McCain, Stevenson, Warner, Lugar, & Hagel). But floor votes have never been the problem with putting this piece of old business to bed. The problem has been politics.

In 2004, when Senator Lugar received unanimous support for the treaty from SFRC, "amateur admirals" geared up their lie machine and create enough flack to keep then Majority Leader Frist from allowing it to come to the floor. The environment is different now and Senator Reid is much more supportive then Frist. In fact, far right opposition might be a good motivator for him to bring it to the floor – just to show how out of touch they are -- considering the incredibly broad support there is for ratification of this treaty.

But in the Senate timing is everything. Senator Biden has a great opportunity to display bipartisan (and presidential-like) leadership now. He should immediately call for hearings once the President’s announcement is public, and get the job done before the August recess. Right now Senate presidential candidates Biden, Clinton, Obama, McCain, and Dodd are all on the same page. Once September hits, considering the incredibly accelerated pace of the presidential election cycle, all bets are off for principled bipartisan cooperation.

Senator Biden – the window is open. Sorry for mangling metaphors, but it is time to throw this hot potato and you're on the mound.

90 posted on 08/10/2007 3:03:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Ben Ficklin; processing please hold

Why don’t you answer your own questions and we’ll see if we agree with your answer(s).


91 posted on 08/10/2007 3:12:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Phatboy
The pdf locked up and me and I had to find another version.

Here it is. I haven't read it yet but will later tonight.

Senate Hearing on Law of Sea Treaty

93 posted on 08/10/2007 3:49:56 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Phatboy

Are you also against campaigning against RINO Senators?


94 posted on 08/10/2007 3:52:55 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: processing please hold

I’m sure that Richard Lugar (Traitor-IN) is doing all he can to make this abomination become law.


97 posted on 08/10/2007 5:05:48 PM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: B4Ranch
I don't have to answer the question because the US Navy has already answered it. Of course you know where the Navy, Coast Guard, and the Joint Chiefs stand on the treaty?
98 posted on 08/10/2007 6:15:46 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I consider our national sovereignty to be a national treasure. Just because government employees are willing to trade it away in order to continue their careers doesn’t convince me that it is the wise thing to do.


99 posted on 08/10/2007 6:58:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: B4Ranch

Yes, I’ve heard it before. Those evil admirals are trying to destroy America.


100 posted on 08/10/2007 7:07:29 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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