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Natural forces offset global warming last two years: study
AFP ^ | Aug 9, 2007

Posted on 08/10/2007 12:46:26 AM PDT by jsh3180

Natural weather variations have offset the effects of global warming for the past couple of years and will continue to keep temperatures flat through 2008, a study released Thursday said.

But global warming will begin in earnest in 2009, and a couple of the years between 2009 and 2014 will eclipse 1998, the warmest year on record to date, in the heat stakes, British meteorologists said.

Existing global climate computer models tend to underestimate the effects of natural forces on climate change, so for this analysis, Met Office experts tweaked their model to better reflect the impact of weather systems such as La Nina, or fluctuations in ocean heat and circulation.

Instead of using approximations, they used real data on the state of the ocean and the atmosphere to generate forecasts of climate change for the decade beginning in 2005 and running through 2014.

The projections suggested that while man-made greenhouse gases would raise temperatures over the long run, cooler water in the tropical Pacific and a resistance to warming in the Southern Ocean would counteract the effect of global warming in the early years of the decade.

The findings fit with the weather patterns seen so far, said Doug Smith, a research scientist at the UK's national weather service, the Met Office, in Exeter, Devon.

To test the accuracy of their new and improved computer model, Smith and his colleagues decided to run a series of "hindcasts," or forecasts for the years 1982-2001.

The new model yielded far more accurate "projections" for global surface temperatures than the previous model, Smith said.

The paper appears in the journal Science.


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To: jsh3180
But global warming will begin in earnest in 2009, and a couple of the years between 2009 and 2014 will eclipse 1998, the warmest year on record to date, in the heat stakes, British meteorologists said.

I wish these people just for once could hear what they sound like, they've just been caught out red-handed with their phony predictions of a hot dry summer here in the UK for 2007 where in fact we've had record rainfalls, floods galore & the coldest July since 1988 coming in at 15.2C -1.3C below the 16.5 average.

I guess they've just cottoned on that 2007 is lagging way behind their predictions of being the warmest earth year on record like they said it was going to be, this statement is temporary damage limitation but they're gonna have to dig deeper for excuses in the years to come me thinks!

21 posted on 08/10/2007 2:31:07 AM PDT by snowman_returns (The Stone Roses - best band the world ever saw!!)
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To: jsh3180
Existing global climate computer models tend to underestimate the effects of natural forces on climate change>

I'll say. They tend to omit things, like OXYGEN, and WATER, and other things like THE SUN.

Glogbal warming "Scientists" (none of which are real scientists) base all their chicken little "the sky is falling" scare tactics on a computer model that can't even tell us what the weather WAS, never mind what it's going to be.

The global warming hoax is unraveling faster than a rubber band powered airplane propeller.

Then again, it's all based on Al Gore science, what did they expect?

22 posted on 08/10/2007 2:47:57 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: jsh3180

“Natural weather variations have offset the effects of global warming for the past couple of years and will continue to keep temperatures flat through 2008, a study released Thursday said.
But global warming will begin in earnest in 2009, and a couple of the years between 2009 and 2014 will eclipse 1998, the warmest year on record to date, in the heat stakes, British meteorologists said.”

So natural weather variations will suddenly cease in the magic year of 2009?


23 posted on 08/10/2007 3:07:42 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: jsh3180
...Met Office experts tweaked their model...

In other words, they weren't getting the results they wanted, so they adjusted the model so they did.

24 posted on 08/10/2007 3:12:41 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: jsh3180

But global warming will begin in earnest in 2009, and a couple of the years between 2009 and 2014 will eclipse 1998, the warmest year on record to date, in the heat stakes, British meteorologists said.

Convenient. Just beyond the election. The Dems can say it may not be hot now but just wait til ‘09! There’s also the inconvenient truth that ‘98 is not the hottest year on record. It was in the 1930’s.


25 posted on 08/10/2007 3:20:23 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: chessplayer
I am a regular reader of your article. And I am very impress with your blog upon Global Warming. Now I am also write a blog upon effects and causes of Global Warming. This blog is collection of news & reviews like the study found that global warming since 1985 has been caused neither by an increase in solar radiation nor by a decrease in the flux of galactic cosmic rays. Some researchers had also suggested that the latter might influence global warming because the rays trigger cloud formation.
26 posted on 08/10/2007 3:35:01 AM PDT by tarunkjuyal (Global Warming)
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To: jsh3180; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...


FReepmail me to get on or off
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"No Chit, Chirlock..."
27 posted on 08/10/2007 3:46:21 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: sourcery
From “Read the Sunspots” reference link in the list:

But the science of global climate change is still in its infancy, with many thousands of papers published every year. In a 2003 poll conducted by German environmental researchers Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch, two-thirds of more than 530 climate scientists from 27 countries surveyed did not believe that “the current state of scientific knowledge is developed well enough to allow for a reasonable assessment of the effects of greenhouse gases.” About half of those polled stated that the science of climate change was not sufficiently settled to pass the issue over to policymakers at all.

Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe solar cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth. Beginning to plan for adaptation to such a cool period, one which may continue well beyond one 11-year cycle, as did the Little Ice Age, should be a priority for governments. It is global cooling, not warming, that is the major climate threat to the world, especially Canada.

28 posted on 08/10/2007 4:09:45 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: tarunkjuyal; xcamel
That summary (concluding that the “study found that global warming since 1985 has been caused neither by an increase in solar radiation nor by a decrease in the flux of galactic cosmic rays” isn’t correct and wasn’t complete.

The PR about the report discrediting the sun’s influence didn’t report new information, but only repeated (incomplete) earlier statements by biased GW claimants deriding the solar link. And it didn’t explain the cosmic ray/solar flare influence on clouds at all.

29 posted on 08/10/2007 4:14:07 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: chessplayer

Magically, the temps will begin warming up again right near the next solar cycle - just like they did the LAST solar cycle.

But the sun’s changes have no influence on earth’s temperatures. Nor Mars, Neptune, and Pluto temperature changes.


30 posted on 08/10/2007 4:16:05 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: jsh3180

I posted Steve McIntyre`s disproving James Hansen`s temperature data on another website. AGW`ers are saying McIntyre`s findings are meaningless and unimportant as they only apply to the US.


31 posted on 08/10/2007 4:57:14 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: jsh3180

“Look out kid
Dont matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Dont try no doz
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You dont need a weather man (or a computer model)
To know which way the wind blows”


32 posted on 08/10/2007 5:19:34 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; chessplayer; tarunkjuyal
Tarunkjuyal has four posts on FR so far, all of them pretending to respond to someone's post, but actually just cut-n-paste promos for his blog. I don't think he's really interested in engaging you on the assertions he made; he just wants you to visit his blog.

T, I welcome you to prove me wrong.

33 posted on 08/10/2007 5:52:13 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: jsh3180

How can natural conditions work against something that doesn’t exist?....

It should say, “Natural Conditions Work Against Another Communist Plot”


34 posted on 08/10/2007 5:57:56 AM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Found a picture of Tarunkjuyal:


35 posted on 08/10/2007 6:00:06 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (There's more than one way to burn a book. - Ray Bradbury)
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To: tarunkjuyal
From what I can tell, and I admittedly became bored with your content rather quickly, your blog is simply a regurgitation of the garbage being disseminated in the MSM.
36 posted on 08/10/2007 6:00:38 AM PDT by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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To: jsh3180

1988 - our models perfectly matched the temperature records - accurate!

1990 - we’ve decided to adjust all the old temperature records down and the newer temperatures up

1991 - our models perfectly matched the new temperature records

1992 - we’ve decided to adjust all the old temperature records down and the newer temperatures up

1998 - our models perfectly matched the new temperature records

2000 - we’ve decided to adjust all the old temperature records down and the newer temperatures up again

2001 - we’ve decided to adjust all the old temperature records down and the newer temperatures up again

2006 - we’ve decided to adjust all the old temperature records down and the newer temperatures up again

August 7, 2007 - oops we made an error in the temperature record adjustments and 1934, 1921 and 1931 are the record hot years again

August 9, 2007 - our models perfectly matched the temperature records (except for the error discovered 2 days ago)

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37 posted on 08/10/2007 6:31:31 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: ari-freedom
you see there really is global warming except now it is not but it will. or maybe not

Unless you vote in Democrats in 2008, there will be Global Warming in 2009.

38 posted on 08/10/2007 6:37:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: jsh3180
These dumb ba$tards can’t predict the weather for this weekend, yet they think they can sell me on the weather in 2009?
39 posted on 08/10/2007 7:39:59 AM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: ran20
Read the sunspots
40 posted on 08/10/2007 8:05:20 AM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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