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To: Kellis91789; OHelix; Bigun
Explain again that they pay NO taxes!

EXXON MOBIL CORPORATION
                          FIRST QUARTER 2006
                 -----------------------------------                 
                 (millions of dollars, unless noted)

                                                       First Quarter
                                                     -----------------
                                                       2006     2005
                                                     -------- --------
Earnings / Earnings Per Share

  Total revenues and other income(1)                  88,980   82,051
  Total costs and other deductions(1)                 73,521   69,148
  Income before income taxes                          15,459   12,903
    Income taxes                                       7,059    5,043
  Net income (U.S. GAAP)                               8,400    7,860

  Net income per common share (dollars)                 1.38     1.23

  Net income per common share
  - assuming dilution (dollars)                         1.37     1.22


Other Financial Data

  Dividends on common stock
    Total                                              1,957    1,728
    Per common share (dollars)                          0.32     0.27

  Millions of common shares outstanding
    At March 31                                        6,050    6,366
    Average - assuming dilution                        6,126    6,421

  Shareholders' equity at March 31                   112,463  103,698
  Capital employed at March 31                       122,286  114,171

  Income taxes                                         7,059    5,043
  Excise taxes                                         7,664    7,238
  All other taxes                                     11,049   10,944
    Total taxes                                       25,772   23,225

  ExxonMobil's share of income taxes
  of equity companies                                    521      493

82 posted on 08/09/2007 1:48:00 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

They REMIT taxes.

Try to get it through your head that the person writing the check is not always the person PAYING. In economic terms, the entity that feels the burden is the one that pays.

It’s like saying you “paid” for a hotel while you were travelling for your company. If your company reimburses you for that expense, then you didn’t really “pay” for it in any real economic sense.

A business “pays” taxes in that sense, but then they turn around and get reimbursed by higher prices charged to customers. So in the end, they didn’t really “pay” the taxes.

Think of it this way: If all taxes on business were removed, and they lowered their prices by that same amount, would their profits change ? No, they would not. This clearly demonstrates that they just used higher prices to pay their taxes, using the customer’s money and not their own.

The terrible trap here is that as long as all business competitors incur the same tax costs, THEY DON’T CARE how high taxes get, because they can ALWAYS pass it along to the customer. Since all their competitors face the same increase in costs, they don’t need to fear losing customers through higher prices. As long as the customer NEEDS the product, it is the customer that will get screwed through the higher tax cost SUPPOSEDLY paid by the business. The only thing that has kept government from using this as a vehicle for unlimited government is that there are other governments involved and if they squeeze too hard, they will kill off the local businesses that they can force to pay the taxes. The entire market will be supplied from other businesses they don’t have authority to use force on, and their tax increase will lose them revenue instead of increasing tax revenue.


85 posted on 08/09/2007 2:55:55 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: avacado
I think you're being intentionally obtuse, and I think it's obvious to most readers of this thread.

But I can at least thank you for not posting another link to that same article again.

No one on this thread is suggesting that there is no such thing as corporate income tax.

You offered the article to refute Bigun's post in #45 where he said:

"Well, no! Actually they collected those funds from any combination of their shareholders, their customers, or their employees and forwarded them to the government."

But the article does not refute Bigun's assertion, it validates it with the following:

The magnitude of these tax payments made by US corporations raises the question of tax incidence. In other words, who bears the burden of taxes on the domestic oil industry? Every dollar a corporation spends, whether on taxes or anything else, eventually comes out of the pockets of individuals, specifically three groups of individuals: the corporation’s shareholders, in the form of decreased capital gains and dividends; its workers, in the form of lower wages; or its customers, in the form of higher prices.

I think Kellis best summed up the issue being discussed with the following: "All taxes on business are simply a fiction to hide the total tax burden from the consumer."

Do you not agree that reduction of corporate taxes would benefit our economy by making our companies more profitable and/or more competitive?

86 posted on 08/09/2007 3:35:40 PM PDT by OHelix
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