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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek; floriduh voter; hocndoc; Ronaldus Magnus; 8mmMauser; Sun; amdgmary; ...
there is a difference between killing, and refusing to continue treatments of various kinds. I think that the state should have very limited authority to require physicians or other care givers to perform services.

Got it. You're in the "food and water is treatment" crowd and you think that a hospital should be allowed to cut someone off the same way that a bar does.

If we make the state the primary vehicle for paying (or permit it to exercise indirect control over payments) for medical services, however, this will extend its authority practically whether we like it or not.

The ONLY person here talking about this is YOU. There is no healthcare crisis in this country except the one created by the leftist liberals and libertarians. The overwhelming majority of people have private health insurance. And regardless of what anyone feels about Medicaid and Medicare, it is properly legislated law and to suggest circumventing these programs is a form of anarchy.

This law IS NOT about money, it's about whether or not a hospital has the right to kill people.

79 posted on 08/13/2007 9:53:16 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; floriduh voter; hocndoc; Ronaldus Magnus; 8mmMauser; Sun; amdgmary

‘Got it. You’re in the “food and water is treatment” crowd and you think that a hospital should be allowed to cut someone off the same way that a bar does.’

No, you really don’t get it. I wonder if you want to get it, or are avoiding the point because the implications are too painful. Unlike you, however, I make no claims to being able to read other people’s minds.

“The ONLY person here talking about this is YOU. There is no healthcare crisis in this country except the one created by the leftist liberals and libertarians. The overwhelming majority of people have private health insurance. And regardless of what anyone feels about Medicaid and Medicare, it is properly legislated law and to suggest circumventing these programs is a form of anarchy.”

Right. See my other posts on this matter. It is obtuse remarks like this which suggest to me that you really don’t want to get it. Opting out of failed and failing state programs may be “circumventing” them, but it is no more anarchy then home educators who choose to retract their delegation of their children’s education to state schools and prefer not to delegate that function to a private instituional. Or, do you think that home educators are into “anarchy” too?


81 posted on 08/13/2007 10:08:33 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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