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To: 8mmMauser; wagglebee; floriduh voter; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; Lead Moderator

Luke 6:44-46 is indeed an appropriate extension of the thought in vs 46.

‘NO. YOU explain how putting someone into a hospital is “illegitimately delegating responsibility for caring for the ill and infirm” to the state?’

The answer to this question depends on how the hospital is managed, funded, and governed. Who makes the governing rules, who pays the bills, and who enforces the rules? What state tax funds pay for tends to end up being under the governance and management of the state. Even much of the private funding (e.g., privately funded insurance) tends to end up giving the state more leverage over the practice and management of medical care services under the present system, because the private funds are largely spent in ways which qualifies those who pay (employers) for tax deductions.

Thus, the state tax system both by providing taxed funds directly, and indirectly (through the regulation of qualifications for tax deductions) gains control over medical service management and policy. We are seeing the fruit of that system of providing medical and labor intensive persoanl care services in the various deadly practices which all of us who recognize the importance of valuing human life find appalling, but many, apparently including you, and some of the other posters in this discussion, are oblivious to the connection.

I hope this changes. If you wish to retreive control over the policies, management, and enforcement of policies in medical and labor-intensive personal care services, then you will have to cease delegating the funding of these services to the state, because it WILL end up managing them and controlling enforcement of polices that you abhor, if you don’t.

Clearly that’s a big change, perhaps the work of more than a lifetime (unless the whole system collapses in a fairly short period of time, and we are left to develop a replacement under catastrophic conditions - - -always a possiblity, though hopefully something less drastic will suffice).


72 posted on 08/13/2007 8:42:25 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek

Now, now, I already told you to buy a clue and you didn’t.

The heart of this issue is pro-life, not about obfuscation. I just think it is wrong for the government or anyone else to murder innocent patients for any reason. That is pro-life, n’est pas?

Surely you hate as I do that any organization in Texas would croak an innocent regardless of policy. I hope so.


73 posted on 08/13/2007 8:54:20 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek; 8mmMauser

As far as I can tell, you are some sort of anarchist who favors eliminating government altogether. I don’t know where you come up with this nonsense, because it isn’t Christian and it certainly isn’t conservative and Free Republic is after all a conservative and not an anarchist/libertarian forum.

In any event, it still seems that you have no opposition to a doctor or hospital choosing to end someone’s life based upon some arbitrary definition of futile.


74 posted on 08/13/2007 8:56:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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