Paul Right, Romney Wrong on Iraq and 9/11

John Birch Society ^ | 8-8-07 | Gary Benoit

[LibLieSlayer]

“Some” here either do not KNOW about our tactics that won the Cold War, don’t understand what it is that we did to win the Cold War, or they KNOW exactly what we did and do not want us to win Cold War II (Russia is playing hardball and this is undeniable). This is not surprising because many of them want us to lose via surrender in Iraq.

LLS

[mnehring]

Oh well, Dubai wasn’t in the crosshairs after all we were going to give them our ports...

Yea, we see how that turned out.. we lost the chance to put agents in all DPI ports around the world and oversee their security procedures.. yep, another step back because too many people wanted to knee jerk react instead of looking into it a little more..

[Siobhan]

Get real and stop the conspiracy theories.

Last I checked I am real, and I don't trade in conspiracy theories. Russia is our main enemy no matter what smoke and mirrors was achieved with perestroika, glastnost, and Gorbachoff's ouster and eventual relocation to the USA.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Regardless of Paul’s view on terrorism, you can’t discredit him because he still supports tight border security and interior enforcement. And he’d immediately ask Congress for a declaration rather than waiting for the UN. Which pretty much blows the “they’ll follow us here” argument to shreds.

[airborne]

Do that many Freepers want to legalize drugs?

Drugs are legal.

You just can't make your own.

But if you've got the right doctor... 8^)

[mnehring]

Ah yes, fluoridation of water ... a gift to America from Nazi science used in the death camps...

OK, sounds like someone has been drinking too much fluoridated water in their kook aid.

[Siobhan]

If it had been made plain that it was an attempt to respond to Hutchison Wampoa’s (Chinese) control of ports, it would have gotten more people on board with it I think. But hindsight and all of that...

[kabar]

Your disjointed, nonsensical response speaks for itself. Do you deny that the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia is a target of AQ? I suggest you read bin Laden's fatwas, "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places." and second fatwa originally published on February 23, 1998, to declare a holy war, or jihad, against the West and Israel.

[bray]

Please explain the difference between Ron Pat Paulson’s views on Iraq and Cindy Sheehag’s?

Pray for W and Our Troops

[jrooney]

I agree.

"Russia is playing hardball and this is undeniable"

With Russia wanting to arm Iran with a 20 billion plus deal, I can understand the US wanting to arm Saudia Arabia to offset their influence. Another arms race? It appears just maybe in the middle east, courtesy of the Russians.

[SJackson]

Ron Paul would fight terror and our enemies on defense, AFTER they have attacked us on our soil. Exactly the opponent al Qaeda and our foreign enemies would like to fight.

Yes, that's the strategy.

[jveritas]

Russia and the Soviets lost the war long time ago and they are not our “main enemy” anymore and they are not a main ally either. Our main enemy today and for the distant future is “Islamic Terrorism”.

[Constantine XIII]

[fanfan]

Not that I know of.

[kabar]

Justify pre-emption for your own nation, and another nation like a great Russian bear will use the same to justify pre-emptive strikes.

It is current US policy to not rule out first-use of nuclear weapons. Do you think we should change that policy, which is the cornerstone of our nuclear deterence? Should we wait for an enemy to attack first before responding?

[mnehring]

Have you ever actually read these claims, I mean really read them..they are all a big circle of proof.. one person refers to another who refers to another’s claim and so on as proof.. and it ends up being one big circle reference.. the whole ‘fluoride is about mind or behavior control’ is about the worst.. I’ve followed this one back and the real scientific evidence isn’t there.. there are a lot of claims some mysterious study or proof exists, but no one can seem to find it..

One of the big problem with the fluoride myth is that some conspiracies refer back to sodium fluoride (that is toxic), but they fail to note that the fluoride that is in some water supplies and in dental gels is monobasic fluoride, a different substance...

[SJackson]

this goes back to the coulda woulda argument. Pre-9/11 We knew Al Queda wanted to strike our soil, we never responded to the Cole or many other attacks. I’m pretty sure Paul wouldn’t let that stand like our other leaders did. Nor would he let future attacks stand.

Of course not, he would have issued Letters of Marque.

Are you suggesting he would have attacked terrorist bases in Yemin, in Somalia, in Lebanon, and, of course the nation of Iraq who fired on our troops on a daily basis.

I would have supported those actions, but you know he wouldn't.

In fact none of those forces would be there. The middle east would be an Islamic/Soviet lake, safe transit for oil I'm sure. And yes, I think access to oil is a legitimate national interest. As to future attacks, there will be none once we've withdrawn our forces from around the world, we'll have no enemies, so future attacks are irrelevant.

[jrooney]

With Gorbachaev (spelled correctly?) throwing verbal attacks against this adminstration and the US recently, I think there is much envy and anger towards us from the old school communist thought there. I do not think Russia is our enemy but I do think hey would revel in our collapse. Maybe that is why they support some of our enemies.

[BfloGuy]

I had no idea the John Birch Society still existed — I suspect it’s now just John Birch with a website.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Do you deny that the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia is a target of AQ?

Dude, I don't care about the Saudi government, OK?