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Gay Lutheran clergy lead fight against church's celibacy rule
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Posted on 08/08/2007 7:14:18 AM PDT by frogjerk

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1 posted on 08/08/2007 7:14:21 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

Any rules are just crap: everything is permitted. Of course, if there are no rules for living, there’s not much point in going to church.


2 posted on 08/08/2007 7:18:44 AM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: frogjerk
Kriesat is one of 82 gay, bisexual or transgender Lutheran clergy across the country who yesterday publicly opposed the celibacy requirement...

There's the list, now fire the perverts! Is this a Christian church? Do they get to observe only those parts of the bible they feel like observing?

3 posted on 08/08/2007 7:18:53 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: frogjerk
"Kriesat is one of 82 gay, bisexual or transgender(????!!!!) Lutheran clergy across the country who yesterday publicly opposed the celibacy requirement"

Good God. These people are in a position to talk to their congregation about morality and the teachings of the Bible? WTF is up with these people?
4 posted on 08/08/2007 7:18:55 AM PDT by stm
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To: frogjerk

this and the abortion issue where the ELCA pays for abortions for its female clergy was the reason why I went back to my Roman Catholic roots. I know the pastor at the church I grew up in is disappointed but I have to go where the holy spirit really is.


5 posted on 08/08/2007 7:19:14 AM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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Kriesat is one of 82 gay, bisexual or transgender Lutheran clergy across the country who yesterday publicly opposed the celibacy requirement,...

ELCA is toast if they don't toss the perverts out on the one thing they worship.

6 posted on 08/08/2007 7:19:19 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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WWJS?


7 posted on 08/08/2007 7:19:22 AM PDT by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: MarineBrat

Lutherans are protestants I believe.


8 posted on 08/08/2007 7:21:03 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

Go forth and SIN NO MORE.


9 posted on 08/08/2007 7:21:26 AM PDT by allmendream (A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal.)
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WWJS?

If I had to guess, something regarding the jaw bone of an ass comes to mind.

10 posted on 08/08/2007 7:22:04 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Catholic Canadian

Please do not associate this branch with Missouri Synod Lutherans.


11 posted on 08/08/2007 7:29:04 AM PDT by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: frogjerk

Hmm... seems I’ve seen something about this very thing in a Bible before. Let me see.... One or two of my bibles mentions it. I wonder if the Lutherans have Leviticus in their bible?

Lev 18:22

(ASV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(BBE) You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.

(Bishops) Thou shalt not lye with mankynde as with womankynde, for it is abhomination.

(CEV) It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man.

(Darby) And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.

(DRB) Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: because it is an abomination.

(ESV) You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

(Geneva) Thou shalt not lie with ye male as one lieth with a woman: for it is abomination.

(GNB) No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that.

(GW) Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.

(JPS) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

(KJV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(KJV-1611) Thou shalt not lie with mankinde, as with womankinde: it is abomination.

(KJVA) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(KJVR) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(LITV) And you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a woman; it is a perversion.

(MKJV) You shall not lie with mankind as with womankind. It is abomination to God.

(RV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(Webster) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

(YLT) `And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is .


12 posted on 08/08/2007 7:30:39 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: slapshot

I would rather have a guy out in the open about his sin as opposed to some of the catholic closet predators.


13 posted on 08/08/2007 7:32:45 AM PDT by Paulus
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To: frogjerk

Moral relativism has spread it’s despicable roots to every corner of our society


14 posted on 08/08/2007 7:33:13 AM PDT by stm
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Oh, OK, I thought this was about real Lutherans.


15 posted on 08/08/2007 7:34:42 AM PDT by steve8714 (Spiderpig..Spiderpig..does whatever a spiderpig does...can someone get that out of my head?)
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I would rather have a guy out in the open about his sin as opposed to some of the catholic closet predators.

True enough.

16 posted on 08/08/2007 7:35:56 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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I would rather have a guy out in the open about his sin as opposed to some of the catholic closet predators.

Congrats! It only took you 13 posts to turn this around on the Catholic Church!

17 posted on 08/08/2007 7:36:02 AM PDT by frogjerk (If ignorance was bliss, liberals would be happy.)
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To: slapshot
I grew up in ELCA and lost respect for it long time ago when I became enlightened.

I am no longer a member of the Lutheran church and am happily a member of a Fellowship Church. I know if I desired to get back to my Lutheran roots I would seek the Missouri Synod Church. They still follow biblical truths and teachings.....

18 posted on 08/08/2007 7:36:52 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Paulus

It turns out the problem is worse in the public schools. The queer chickenhawk priests are being forced out in more and more diocese. I’m waiting for the lawsuits against school districts.


19 posted on 08/08/2007 7:37:37 AM PDT by steve8714 (Spiderpig..Spiderpig..does whatever a spiderpig does...can someone get that out of my head?)
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To: frogjerk

Everytime I see “Lutheran” and “Gay” I think, “please God don’t let it be Missouri Synod”!


20 posted on 08/08/2007 7:38:02 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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