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The asterisk just doesn't apply (THE 2ND MOST CONTROVERSIAL HOME RUN IN BASEBALL HISTORY)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 8, 2007 | CHRIS DE LUCA

Posted on 08/08/2007 4:58:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Chi-townChief

It’s possible the writer might be referring to Bobby Thompson’s “shot heard ‘round the world”, as the “2nd most controversial” HR in baseball.


61 posted on 08/08/2007 5:48:44 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: wagglebee

He was accused of betting on games as a MANAGER, not as a player. That doesn’t impact his numbers. That having been said, Rose shouldn’t get into the Hall.


62 posted on 08/08/2007 5:48:53 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Vaquero

Your question has probably already been answered, but I would say it was Maris’ 61st home run? That would be my guess.


63 posted on 08/08/2007 5:50:18 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Pete Rose has certainly done a lot more for baseball than Bond EVER WILL. Rose understood teamwork as evidenced by the dynasty he helped shape thirty years ago. Bonds is only interested in himself. And as far as Rose being a jerk, he is a saint compared to Ty Cobb.


64 posted on 08/08/2007 5:52:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Kudos. You played the racism and homophobia card in the same sentence. Bonds is a juiced up POS who would have never got anywhere near the record without being juiced. His pre -’98 proves that - along with his mistress’ testimony and various other sources [read GAME OF SHADOWS yet?]. He [and his “record”] should be ignored.


65 posted on 08/08/2007 5:53:19 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: steelyourfaith

A-Rod will bury Bonds, absent a serious injury, before he hangs ‘em up.


66 posted on 08/08/2007 5:54:54 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Chi-townChief
Barry Bonds cheated but he the record should still belong to him?

This is like saying that Ben Johnson who won the 100m Gold Medal in Seoul in 1988 should been allowed to keep it after he tested positive and it was stripped.

The next big test is five years from now when Bonds is retired and his name appears on The Hall of Fame ballot. Mark McGuire (who I love) did not deserve to go on the first ballot. He might not deserve it ever. Bonds doesn’t deserve it on the first ballot. That privilege is set aside for the truly great.

67 posted on 08/08/2007 5:55:33 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Cindy Sheehan for Congress! Because...well...just because!)
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To: gridlock

LOL... I think you probably aren’t far from the truth.


68 posted on 08/08/2007 5:56:33 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: shekkian

‘96 playoffs. Yanks/Orioles. The homer that wasn’t.


69 posted on 08/08/2007 5:56:48 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: wagglebee

You posted: I think it will probably be Alex Rodriguez who ultimately winds up with the record.
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I agree with you. And I don’t think Bonds will hold the record nearly as long as Ruth and Aaron held it. There is no need to put a literal asterisk by Bonds’name. Everyone knows what he did. Yes, others have done it, too, and any records such people holds are tainted as well. Both Pete Rose and Bonds have done themselves no favors by being as beligerant to fans and press as they have been. Had their attitudes been different, their accomplishments would be more appreciated.

But, ultimately, we are talking about sports, as opposed to something substantive. The purpose of the games, and the records associated with them, is entertainment and diversion. Frankly, the issue of Bonds’ steroid use is just additional diversion, and nothing more. In a few years, the issue will be forgotten, and soon after that, a new player will hold Bonds’ record, and we will probably have a chance to comment on Bonds’ reaction to the breaking of his old, and tainted, record.


70 posted on 08/08/2007 5:59:09 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Hornet19
Have you ever seen a man go through a growth spurt in his thirties??

happens all the time.. its just usually the growth spurt is a beer gut :)
71 posted on 08/08/2007 6:03:06 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: Chuck54
And if you are a baseball fan, deep down, you know he deserves it.

You can try and sell that shi* in Peoria or somewhere else, but not here where I reside.

I'm not buying it either. This really diminishes baseball. And the fact that the league is doing little to police drug use only adds fuel to the fire.

72 posted on 08/08/2007 6:04:29 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wagglebee
Ty Cobb used to clean his cleats with a file just in-case someone got hurt by them. He didn’t want anyone getting infected by rusty cleats :)
73 posted on 08/08/2007 6:06:41 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: shekkian

If you remember, the “firestorm” if I can use the cliche, around Roger Maris in 1961 when he broke the Babe’s single season record pretty much dwarfs this controversy now.


74 posted on 08/08/2007 6:08:06 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: wagglebee

But it does keep you out of the Hall of Fame.


75 posted on 08/08/2007 6:08:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Chi-townChief
The all-time hits leader: Pete Rose, who has been banned by baseball and who was convicted of tax evasion, serving a prison term in Downstate Marion. There isn't a single asterisk next to any of his records -- and Rose committed the game's biggest sin, gambling on baseball.

How did gambling enhance Rose's hitting performance, O Sun-Times moron?

76 posted on 08/08/2007 6:08:42 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: carton253

Absolutely.


77 posted on 08/08/2007 6:08:58 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: PzLdr
He [and his “record”] should be ignored.

I'm on it!

78 posted on 08/08/2007 6:10:28 AM PDT by gridlock (You cannot coexist with somebody who wants you dead.)
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To: NCLaw441

Either Rodriguez or Griffey will most likely break the record sometime in the next few years. If neither of them manage to break the record, it’s no telling how long this one will stand.


79 posted on 08/08/2007 6:10:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

You think Rose was a jerk? How about Bonds going into court to get his Child Support lowered during the Base Ball Strike because he claimed he was unemployed?


80 posted on 08/08/2007 6:10:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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