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Subprime crisis claims another German victim(Eurozone hit hard by U.S. subprime woes)
Gulf Times ^ | 08/08/07

Posted on 08/07/2007 9:15:07 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Subprime crisis claims another German victim

Published: Wednesday, 8 August, 2007, 02:49 AM Doha Time

FRANKFURT: The stricken US subprime mortgage market showed fresh potential to suck in other investors when another German asset manager froze a fund yesterday, blaming a crisis triggered by the risky US mortgages temporarily closed a 235mn-euro asset-backed securities (ABS) fund after seeing what it said was a sharp fall in its value - 2.4% - over the past week.

The development is significant because it is the second fund manager to come unstuck even though it had not invested in subprime assets.

The fund does, however, own securitised assets and so has an exposure to the credit markets, which have come under pressure in the wake of the subprime mortgage collapse.

“The problem is that the subprime crisis has caused a liquidity crisis,” Uwe Fuiten, a senior manager at WestLB Mellon, said.

“So we can’t get a fair price for our investment.” The announcement comes just days after German small-company lender IKB became Europe’s highest-profile casualty of the subprime crisis, sending shock waves through the country’s banking system.

But while IKB was directly invested in subprime, that crisis has sparked a domino reaction, Earlier this week, Frankfurt-Trust shut one of its ABS funds to stop panicking investors withdrawing any more cash. Despite not having any subprime investments, it came under pressure after many worried investors demanded their money back.

Default rates on mortgages to high-risk, or subprime, borrowers in the US have been creeping up, leading to problems for lending banks as well as those sharing the risk.

It has also spilled into credit markets, where banks and others buy and sell debt.

Last week, German banks clubbed together to bankroll a 3.5bn-euro ($4.83bn) rescue to cover IKB’s potential losses and stem what financial regulator Bafin warned could snowball into the biggest banking crisis in Germany in more than 75 years.

The banks backing the IKB rescue expect it to lose up to a fifth of its roughly $24bn subprime investment. The scale of the problem, which followed IKB’s assurances that it would barely be affected by property difficulties in the US, has prompted the head of the German central bank to call repeatedly for calm in the market. – Reuters


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abs; europe; ikb; subprime; tlr
It is interesting that Europe is taking heavy hits from U.S. subprime problem, compared with U.S.
1 posted on 08/07/2007 9:15:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A rather large percent of the most “toxic” of the CDOs ended up in German hands.

jas3


2 posted on 08/07/2007 9:17:42 PM PDT by jas3
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The development is significant because it is the second fund manager to come unstuck even though it had not invested in subprime assets.

But Benanke and Paulson said the subprime mess was contained.

3 posted on 08/07/2007 9:24:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Next stop - UK...where all the mortgages are variables.


4 posted on 08/07/2007 9:29:16 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Moonman62

Interesting. Looks like it is headed down a slippery slope.


5 posted on 08/07/2007 9:30:13 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Moonman62

Interesting. Looks like it is headed down a slippery slope. A lot of good people could be hurt by this.


6 posted on 08/07/2007 9:31:14 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: Moonman62
Maybe what they meant was that, in U.S., it would be contained for a while, but all bets are off for the rest of the world.:-)
7 posted on 08/07/2007 9:40:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Actually Paulson has gone out of his way to note how well the global economy is doing, which he uses as an excuse to ignore any problems at home.

AHM which is an American mortgage company has gone bankrupt, even though it did vey little subprime business.

8 posted on 08/07/2007 9:45:11 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Paulson has been cheer-leading too much. It has always worried me.
9 posted on 08/07/2007 9:52:14 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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“Paulson has been cheer-leading too much. It has always worried me.”

What do you think his job is? This time they got a guy with credibility and genuine knowledge but he is still meant to be a cheerleader.


10 posted on 08/07/2007 9:55:27 PM PDT by DemEater
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To: TigerLikesRooster

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11 posted on 08/07/2007 10:00:04 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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If one is going to get worried every time a E235M fund gets into trouble, one is going to have a hard life. This “crisis” is a crisis of confidence. The fund lost 2.4 percent of its value and it is in “crisis”? Half of all traded funds lost that much on Friday and they aren’t in “crisis.” They all made that much back on Monday. If you blinked, you missed it. Foreign investors have taken a huge amount of the riskiest portions of ABS, but that risk is off the balance sheets of U.S. banks and other mortgage lenders. If those foreign investors mispriced that risk (and all evidence points in that direction), they will bear the consequences.


12 posted on 08/07/2007 10:11:12 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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OK. We worry. You won’t. Case closed.
13 posted on 08/07/2007 10:20:43 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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[It is interesting that Europe is taking heavy hits from U.S. subprime problem, compared with U.S.]
 
Interesting, but not surprising.
 
Argent Securities, AKA Ameriquest, and Deutschebank.
 
 
 
 

14 posted on 08/20/2007 8:10:29 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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[If those foreign investors mispriced that risk]
 
How are the values of mortgage backed securities determined? 
 

15 posted on 08/20/2007 8:31:03 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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