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To: fr_freak
I AGREE that the "nothing to hide" thing is a tyrannical and horrid excuse that will be increasingly used by the likes of Shrillery and her globalist gestapo to enslave increasing numbers of hapless victims.

But PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS A CONSERVATIVE VALUE.

And where there is AUTHENTIC, VIABLE, EFFECTIVE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, there is no need of such draconion laws, regs, practices.

On this thread, we see the opposite--PERSONAL IRRESPONSIBILITY JUSTIFIED AS A CONSERVATIVE RIGHT. That I disagree with.

No way will I ever condone the willy nilly PERSONALLY IRRESPONSIBLE bloodying, maiming, horrifically killing innocent children as a conservative RIGHT. It never has been and still is NOT.

The conservative right is to act PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLY so that the social system around one doesn't have to intervene.

512 posted on 09/08/2007 12:20:11 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
...But PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS A CONSERVATIVE VALUE.

And where there is AUTHENTIC, VIABLE, EFFECTIVE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, there is no need of such draconion laws, regs, practices...


Yes, personal responsibility is a conservative value, which is exactly one of the reasons why a mandated breathalyzer is such a horrible idea. The breathalyzer actually removes personal responsibility from the individual. An individual now can drink a lot, or drink a little, or not drink at all, and never has to make the decision whether it is appropriate to drive or not. His car (as a proxy for the government) will make it for him.

What if the breathalyzer malfunctions? What if it allows someone who has a BAC of .10 to start his car? Once that person wrecks and kills someone, that person will blame the car manufacturer, or the government, saying "It's not my fault - the car allowed me to drive, so I figured I must have been safe." With the breathalyzer, even the opportunity to exercise personal judgment and responsibility has been removed, and replaced with whatever arbitrary standard the government feels like making today.

So, you must realize that such a device could only be implemented once we've decided that we no longer wish ANYONE to exercise personal responsibility.
526 posted on 09/08/2007 2:32:57 PM PDT by fr_freak
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