But that is not how you are responding here. You are coming across as being an advocate for this for everyone with the attitude "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about."
As I stated in other posts the BACs are not trustworthy, as my own situation proves. I had a BAC of .04, not from a breathalyzer, but a blood test (taken for other reasons) and it had been nearly a week since I had consumed an alcoholic beverage, and that was a couple of glasses of wine with Thanksgiving dinner.
Alcoholic rages; alcoholic child and wife beating; drunken brawling etc. would be sufficient, for me.
My first husband was abusive when he was drunk, so I speak from firsthand experience. However, just because he was a jacka$$ when drunk, there is no reason I should be required to have one of these machines in my vehicle, nor should my husband, the father of our child.
DENIAL is sooooo transparent to everyone but the one wallowing in it and ranting out of it.
I do believe you are the one in denial here. All I have seen is abhorrence of drunk driving, no defense of it, you keep throwing in the strawman of folks supporting people getting drunk, which is entirely different than drunk driving.
BTW, I actually had 3 beers over the course of the 4 hours I was cooking this evening, my husband had none, because he was driving. Friday we're cooking out with FReeper FRiends at their house, I'm sure alcohol consumption will be involved, but none of us are driving and none of us are going to be abusing our spouses or children.
The vast majority of folks who consume alcohol are responsible in such consumption, a fact that seems to escape you.
But that is not how you are responding here. You are coming across as being an advocate for this for everyone with the attitude “if you didn’t do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.”
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I think I have only part of the responsibility for how I’ve come across on that score.
The knee jerk responses have been to jump to conclusions.
I’m supposed to have made and am being castigated by many for not making wholesale and intensely important to that perspective distinctions between it being warranted for proven drunk drivers vs everyone else . . . though I actually have here and there made some such bits of such distinctions.
Yet, others are off scott free for FAILING UTTERLY to catch the distinctions I made in my wording many times.
Fascinating. Hypocrisy does tend to be a chronic human failing—especially amongst those who . . .
Yeah, I’ve deliberately come across in a fiesty combative sort of way because I feel very intensely about the destructiveness of alcoholism
AND I’VE LEARNED FROM HARD EXPERIENCE THAT SOFTER WORDS TEND TO FAIL TO SCRATCH THE SURFACE WITH SUCH FOLKS
AT ALL.
It’s true that it increases the defensiveness . . . but, in my experience . . . later . . . lying alone with one’s thoughts late at night . . . some bits of truth are brought back to certain individuals’ minds . . . to a more fruitful end . . . occasionally.
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“if you didn’t do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.”
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I’ve never said that and I don’t think I’ve even implied it. Because I don’t believe that way, feel that way.
I think it’s quite arguable whether society would benefit from your alcoholic hubby having such a device in his car and/or any car he routinely drove, including yours.
How would you feel . . . God forbid . . . 10 minutes after an accident in which 5 family members had been burned to death including children under the age of 6 . . . by his drunk driving that such a device would likely have prevented?
I agree the issues are tricky and fraught with problems either way the decision would go.
But I REALLY HATE kids getting killed by drunk drivers . . . and worse . . . burned to death. And, if they were your kids or kids you loved, I’d think you’d really hate it, too.
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The vast majority of folks who consume alcohol are responsible in such consumption, a fact that seems to escape you.
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Perhaps. I haven’t seen up-to-date statistics on that issue. Used to be true.
I wonder, nowadays.
I do live near one of the worst county’s in the country for drunk driving accidents.
I have just learned from experience that a certain flavor of defense of alcohol is virtually identical to the word choices, phrases, behaviors, denial etc. of full blown alcoholics.
And, when I run into such a pattern of defensiveness over alcohol, I don’t mind tweaking the thought provoking statements more than a little.
LIVES ARE PRECIOUS.
Ignorant pride is not.